I feel you on the talent issue.. I've had that happen with scheduled guests for the show I'm trying to do here.. and the show must go on. Its so strange to see this all on TV, and it must be stranger still for you all, so close to it. I mean, the feelings I'm having are so much like those I had on 9/11, and the first days after.. Its like end of the world stuff, fall of the roman empire, its very scary, and very disturbing.. So surreal... so many heroes, so many bad guys, so many victims, so much taken for granted... Ok... I'm babbling.. but I don't know anyone down there, and have no family there.... -Frank
lancer777 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: el paso, texas. as for casting someone else had said that i/we should've waited and it might've worked out better. funny thing is if i hadn't had mentioned that they weren't the original guys then no one would've known any better. as for the original actors - highly unprofessional to not show without any message what-so-ever. so they are now on my "do not call" list. to be honest the 2 original guys were black and white. just so people would think that's what it was about, but they didn't show and you gotta work with what you've got. heck i didn't even get the original girl. --- In [email protected], "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your welcome Lance... > > BTW, where do you live at? > > About the spot.. I think the casting did muddle it some.. and heck > the fight could easily have been race related.. that might have made > increased the impact of the message.. Even racial differences were > put aside.. blah, blah, blah... > > About camera unsteadiness as a technique.. I don't like it much > either, for the record, and I think its because, as a viewer, it > makes me work harder than I'm used to watch whats going on in the > frame.. But it does what its suppose to do. > > -Frank > > > > > --- In [email protected], "lancer777" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > thanks frank! by the way how are things? we are miles from the areas > > hit by katrina, but i believe some refugees are headed for one of > our > > school district's gymnasiums. almost a good 1,000 miles away but i'm > > glad we can help out. > > > > the funny perhaps ironic thing about the clip...some people think > the > > beginning confrontation is a racial matter, but in truth both guys > are > > hispanic. if i had more time the actual confrontation is over the > girl ;-) > > > > --- In [email protected], Frank Mixson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I surprised to see this topic still going, so I thought I'd give > it > > another look. I was real surprised by the 2 comments listed > here... > > It's meaning is pretty clear to me.. but who knows, i only have a > > GED, so I might have it wrong, lol. > > > > > > Lets see, on Sept 10, 2001 (when watching something, try to absorb > > as much info as possible.. think of the dates on the spots as > > 'clues'), two kids got into a fight about something. What were they > > fighting about? who cares? Next sequence is the World Trade Center > > bombings video being watched by the some kids. The next sequence > has > > date too, Sept. 12, 2001(hmmmm...... ), and shows the 2 kids from > the > > first sequence shaking hands, exchanging words, and then heading > > toward the US Marines > > > recruiting center... Duhhhhh... OK, I'ma apply some GED math > to > > this.. Two kids fight over something one day, America is attacked > the > > next day, the following day, the kids put aside their differences > and > > join the Marines. > > > > > > > > > Hmmm.... looks like a recruiting spot to me. Sometimes when > > examining the bark of a tree, some miss the forest entirely. > There's > > a lot more to the production of video than technical mastery. There > > is also the use of symbolism, unfortunately, sometimes it is culture > > specific.. A buddhist, might not get the christian symbolism > > inherent to western art, and a christian might not get the taoist > > references that are in many eastern arts.. I like to watch > foreign > > movies, for just that reason. I'm surprised that these people didn't > > 'get it'. Maybe you had to be here on Sept 11, 2001, to 'get it'. > > > > > > But hey, what do i know? I don't have any degrees in this stuff.. > > but like most americans, I don't need anyones permission or approval > > to do it anyway.. Also, unsteady shots are quite the norm, now, > at > > least here... Think NYPD Blue. The eye is not allowed to rest, > > anxiety is increased in the veiwer, and a greater sense of being > > 'present' is created in the veiwer. Sounds appropriate for the > > sequence of them watching the TV (not sure if it was done > > intentionally or not though, in this case, but it can easily be > > argued as an artistice choice). > > > > > > I also think that the viewers in this country are used to it now, > > and that any unsteadiness in the camera work in this spot is > > overlooked as people try to figure out what it means.. Which is > what > > you want to do in film anyway.. make the viewer think, and keep > > watching until they have figured it out or finally 'got it' . Like > I > > said, I'm just guessing, I only have a GED, so I could be wrong. And > > I've been to movies with people that didn't 'get it'. They > unvariably > > didn't like the movie. > > > > > > I had to say all that, Lance, because I got some nasty remarks > from > > some folks across the pond about my stuff too. Don't worry, I think > > it just speaks to the resentment of americans in the rest of the > world > > right now. Misery loves company. SPONSORED LINKS Video production Video server Video streaming server Adobe premiere training Adobe premiere pro Adobe premiere 6.5 --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Adobe-Premiere" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). 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