When you captures the DV footages to the computer, it already 'coded' as a
DV footage, so by exporting it as an uncompressed file 'wouldn't really make
much difference'...

I did the same thing as you did before, but then I remembered that if you
didn't apply any effects or transition to the footage, exporting it out as a
DV footage to add vfx wouldn't be an issue. But to be 'safe' I always has
been exporting the DV to uncompress for AE work, until I realized while
watching it on bigger screen (projected to a 42' wide screen), it wasn't
making a much of a difference... So I started to export the file as DVCPRO50
Codec, which is a bit better than the regular DV25... 

The size for a dvcpro50 is 50% more than DV25 (or regular DV footage) but it
keeps the quality high, this way you don't have to have a lot of
uncompressed files. Perhaps that can be an option for you?

I would suggest doing some testing to see how it looks on screen, and
comparing the uncompressed avi to the dvcpro50 ones. (Btw, I use
MainConcept's DVCpro codecs).


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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Edward Martin III
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AP] DV-AVI vs. uncompressed AVI

This seems like an odd question.

For my last big project, we used Canon XL-1 cameras, and exported as
DV AVI files.  I'm editing in Premiere 6.5*.  There are a few special
effects, for which I usually use After Effects.

My ASSUMPTION has been that DV-AVI is lossy, so when I have a clip
that needs an effect, I export from the timeline as an uncompressed
AVI, do my effects work on that AVI, and then render to a third
uncompressed AVI, which I then import back into the Premiere timeline,
where it will, of course, eventually be compressed out to a DVD mpeg
stream in the future.

Normally, this works fine, but as you might imagine, it does take up
hard drive space (this is a 90-minute project and there are a lot of
effects).  However, I'm getting to a point where I need to apply some
atmospheric and color correction effects to larger pieces (and the
color correction tools in P6.5 aren't as fun as being attacked by
poisonous bees), so, NORMALLY, I'd export the whole scene, fiddle with
it in After Effects (or Edius or whatever), and bring the big AVI back
in.

Big scenes mean big AVIs, and now things are starting to get pretty huge.

My question is, am I worrying overmuch about the possible image
degradation?  IS there image degradation, if I were to, say, export
from P6.5 as a DV-AVI, fiddle with it in AE as a DV-AVI, export it
from AE as a DV-AVI, and then bring that file into P6.5?  'Cause if
not, that sure wuold save me a lot of hard drive space and
nervousness.

Cheers,

Edward

* Because that was the latest software I had at the time, and I prefer
locking my tools once I start a project.  That said, however, if there
are no issues with upgrading to CS3, I sure might enjoy doing that.

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