Flashcopy is NOT a Tivoli product. It is a feature of the ESS. There are TDP
agents for both ESS using Flashcopy  and EMC using TimeFinder, but only in
support of Oracle. But scripting some flashcopy tasks to create copy LUNs
and bring them online to your backup server wouldn't be too hard to do. On
NT and AIX, there is a command line interface for Flashcopy. I'm not sure
what's available for EMC. You could probably script the TimeFinder
operations for EMC in much the same way.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.
"I haven't lost my mind. It's backed up on tape somewhere." - ??

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Lawrence Clark
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM, Tivoli, Shark and EMC


Hi:
Yes, I was wondering if tivoli software features such as flashcopy were
supported on ESS, but not EMC disk...........this like that. Basicly, are
there any advantages / disadvantages to the AIX/TSM / Tivoli/ ESS
combination in contrast to the  the AIX/TSM/Tivoli/EMC combination.

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Not enough description to answer the question.

ESS is a disk subsystem.

Are you comparing it to EMC disk or to Connectrix.

I do not know if you can hook a ESS to a Connectrix.  I know they were
supposed to go open with Connectrix, but have not looked lately.

As far as SAN TDPs there are some current combination restrictions that are
supposed to all be lifted with V5.1.

TDP for SAP R/3 and Oracle support the following combinations of Timefinder
and FlashCopy:

ESS and AIX (FlashCopy)
EMC Symmetrix and Solaris (TimeFinder)

But not EMC Symmetrix/AIX and ESS/Solaris

Netbackup only supports EMC/Symmetrix.

>From a raw SAN point of view TSM does not directly interface with the SAN in
these environments this is a Fiber Channel SCSI Disk issue.  Now, if you are
talking about Fibre Channel Magstar then the game changes and TSM is
involved in making the Tape Sharing work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM, Tivoli, Shark and EMC


Hi:

Does anyone know of any TSM or tivoli related software features that are
supported on ESS but not supported on EMC SAN?

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