Hello Becky

Your are right Becky. Of course the shark doesn't protect me from
corruption, but our database backups do make it possible to recover from a
corruption. We are considering your advice though. It's not a bad idea to
protect yourself from corruption. Protecting yourself for disk failures
alone is only half the job.

We'll get back on that.



Ilja G. Coolen


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Van: Davidson, Becky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: donderdag 25 april 2002 15:52
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Onderwerp: Re: TSM Database Location


Ilja
We have some of our database volumes on the shark and I still mirror my db
volumes. You mirror not only to protect from disk errors but also to protect
from corruption.  I believe that there was a discussion recently of someone
who had a corrupted database volume.  A shark will not protect you from that
becky

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From: Ilja G. Coolen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Database Location


Well Jonathan,

This is how we do it.
We are running on an AIX box for starters.
We have our 4 DB volumes on an separate filesystem. This is about 40GB in
total having 20 GB extendable. We do not mirror the DB volumes, because the
ESS provides all the redundancy we could need. No pain in case of disk
crashes. No management burden. Leaves more resources to TSM. Our database
has a 50% mutation daily, but we manage to keep up a 98% to 99% cache hit
ratio. This high mutation level made us decide to do a full DB backup twice
a day. We also do a daily reset of all the utilization values.

All our disk storage pool volumes also are on the same ESS, but in different
filesystems. These total to about 900 GB.

We have 2 fibre channel connections directly attached to the ESS. No SAN
yet. Both FC connections are based on redundancy and load-balancing using
IBM's subsystem device driver (shipped with the ESS). The ESS disks look the
same as local disks to an AIX box, so we simply put the ESS disks in AIX
volume groups/logical volumes/file systems.

Assumingin you know something about the ESS:
Inside the ESS whe have defined our 4 (DB) disks on 4 different loops (2
ranks or 8 packs) so we have 2 hot-spare disks available for each DB volume.
This also provides the best possible performance.


So Jonathan. Put your primary DB volumes on an ESS, and you don't need any
mirrors.
Let us know what you decide to do. Have fun.

greetings,

Ilja Coolen.

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Van: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 17:03
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Onderwerp: Re: TSM Database Location


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ilja G. Coolen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd suggest to move it to it's own filesystem placed on an redundant disk
> array, enjoying high performance and recoverability.
> We placed our database volumes on an ESS subsystem. Where you place it is
> your own choice. Just try to achieve redundancy.

Did you put all primary/copy db volumes on the ESS? What kind of db cache
hit are you getting? How are you talking to the ESS and how much other
stuff is talking to the ESS while TSM is running? I am considering using
the 2nd/3rd copy of the db for DRM purposes on an ESS.

>
>
> Have fun.
>
>
>
> Ilja G. Coolen
>
>
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>
> ABP / USZO
> CIS / BS / TB / Storage Management
> Telefoon         : +31(0)45  579 7938
> Fax      : +31(0)45  579 3990
> Email    : [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Intranet
>         : Storage Web
> <http://intranet/cis_bstb/html_content/sm/index_sm.htm>
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> - Everybody has a photographic memory, some just don't have film. -
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>
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> Van: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 13:37
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: TSM Database Location
>
>
> We are just setting up a new TSM server.  It appears to load the default
> database under /opt/tivoli/tsm/server/bin.  Is it common practice to leave
> it there or to move it to it's own separate location? Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Brenda
>

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