Hi Andy!
It depends... If you are using OS or adapter mirroring: yes. If you are
using TSM mirroring: not necessarily. About a week ago
(http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0204/1043.html) Stuart Ward received
the following message in his activity log:

04/18/2002 08:03:15   ANR0207E Page address mismatch detected on database
volume F:\ADSM_SERVER\DB\DB5.DSM, logical page 821282 (physical page
3378466); actual: -1.
04/18/2002 08:03:15   ANR0247I Database page 821280 successfully read from
an alternate copy on volume E:\ADSM_SERVER\DB\DB5COPY.DSM.

So, in this case, a corruption in one database files did not lead to
corruption on the mirror.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 21:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Database Location


I am a little confused here.  What kind of corruption are you talking
about?  If corrupted data gets written to one mirror, won't it get
written tothe other mirror too?


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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Davidson, Becky wrote:

> Ilja
> We have some of our database volumes on the shark and I still mirror my db
> volumes. You mirror not only to protect from disk errors but also to
protect
> from corruption.  I believe that there was a discussion recently of
someone
> who had a corrupted database volume.  A shark will not protect you from
that
> becky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ilja G. Coolen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: TSM Database Location
>
>
> Well Jonathan,
>
> This is how we do it.
> We are running on an AIX box for starters.
> We have our 4 DB volumes on an separate filesystem. This is about 40GB in
> total having 20 GB extendable. We do not mirror the DB volumes, because
the
> ESS provides all the redundancy we could need. No pain in case of disk
> crashes. No management burden. Leaves more resources to TSM. Our database
> has a 50% mutation daily, but we manage to keep up a 98% to 99% cache hit
> ratio. This high mutation level made us decide to do a full DB backup
twice
> a day. We also do a daily reset of all the utilization values.
>
> All our disk storage pool volumes also are on the same ESS, but in
different
> filesystems. These total to about 900 GB.
>
> We have 2 fibre channel connections directly attached to the ESS. No SAN
> yet. Both FC connections are based on redundancy and load-balancing using
> IBM's subsystem device driver (shipped with the ESS). The ESS disks look
the
> same as local disks to an AIX box, so we simply put the ESS disks in AIX
> volume groups/logical volumes/file systems.
>
> Assumingin you know something about the ESS:
> Inside the ESS whe have defined our 4 (DB) disks on 4 different loops (2
> ranks or 8 packs) so we have 2 hot-spare disks available for each DB
volume.
> This also provides the best possible performance.
>
>
> So Jonathan. Put your primary DB volumes on an ESS, and you don't need any
> mirrors.
> Let us know what you decide to do. Have fun.
>
> greetings,
>
> Ilja Coolen.
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Jonathan Siegle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 17:03
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: TSM Database Location
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ilja G. Coolen wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd suggest to move it to it's own filesystem placed on an redundant
disk
> > array, enjoying high performance and recoverability.
> > We placed our database volumes on an ESS subsystem. Where you place it
is
> > your own choice. Just try to achieve redundancy.
>
> Did you put all primary/copy db volumes on the ESS? What kind of db cache
> hit are you getting? How are you talking to the ESS and how much other
> stuff is talking to the ESS while TSM is running? I am considering using
> the 2nd/3rd copy of the db for DRM purposes on an ESS.
>
> >
> >
> > Have fun.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ilja G. Coolen
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Brenda Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: woensdag 24 april 2002 13:37
> > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Onderwerp: TSM Database Location
> >
> >
> > We are just setting up a new TSM server.  It appears to load the default
> > database under /opt/tivoli/tsm/server/bin.  Is it common practice to
leave
> > it there or to move it to it's own separate location? Any
recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brenda
> >
>
> Jonathan Siegle                 Center for Academic Computing
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                 Penn State University
> 814-865-5840                    University Park, Pa 16802
>


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