On many occasions I have also seen and interacted with deceased pets in the real-time zone (apparently visiting) and also in the spirit worlds (often called heavens) when I have visited these. The repeatable nature of these experiences suggests animals not only project, but also survive death as independent spirit beings. This last may or may not apply to domesticated and wild animals. I believe close long-term association with humans stimulates animals' higher emotions, as in the case of much-loved pets, elevating them to more independent levels of spiritual being. In principle, this last has similarities with how humans are elevated by lives of spiritual discipline, love, and service, and by long-term contact with advanced spiritual beings.
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, roomsearching <[email protected]>wrote: > Even animals have awareness. In my experience, animals project regularly, > especially pets. I suggest this is a natural ability common to the entire > animal kingdom. I have frequently observed pets and other animals roaming > the real-time zone. With real-time sight I have also > observed my own pets as they exit their bodies — a truly fascinating sight! > I rarely see animals projecting in higher levels of > the astral planes, although I frequently encounter them in lower regions, > with pets often accompanying their human friends. > from Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce. > > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:46 PM, roomsearching <[email protected]>wrote: > >> There is something called awareness. As an example: Jill is hanging out >> her washing (objective experience) while her mind is far away, sitting on a >> tropical island having a romantic lunch with Jack, her favorite person >> (subjective fantasy). Viewed by an astral projector or >> clairvoyant,Jill's astral reflection might be seen to be having lunch with >> Jack under a palm tree on a beach in her backyard, >> with a line of washing hanging in the foreground and Jill's house just >> behind the scene. The objective parts of this scene have >> become mixed with subjective fantasy elements to produce this bizarre >> scenario around Jill's astral reflection. >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Of course there is,marko. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 1, 7:21 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> > There is no such thing as awareness and/or choice. >>> > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Rodger <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > Sender: [email protected] >>> > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 05:01:41 >>> > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> >>> > Subject: Re: Put in practice >>> > >>> > Some do not believe in choice.Is that a matter of awareness? >>> > >>> > On Jul 1, 6:53 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > . >>> > >>> > > Yes that’s the ticket ……………………… >>> > >>> > > “We is what is, supposed to be or not. Or, we is totally unified.” >>> > >>> > > The highest level of awareness is not a question or solution. It’s >>> > > not about silence or noise. Not even about duality verses non- >>> > > duality. >>> > >>> > > It is the knowing that all things are exactly what they are supposed >>> > > to be. This condition of uniform correctness applies to now, >>> > > yesterday and tomorrow. This correctness governs all realities >>> > > everywhere and always will. >>> > >>> > > Trust this and duality pails into insignificance. Freedom or >>> slavery >>> > > are simply a choice. >>> > >>> > > Misery is slavery. >>> > >>> > > . >>> > >>> > > On 1 July, 12:20, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > > Be sensible,Marcus...total unity has never occurred being that >>> total >>> > > > unity never was not.And,if we were not supposed to be miserable,we >>> > > > would not be so.We is what is,supposed to be or not.Or,we is >>> totally >>> > > > unified. >>> > >>> > > > On Jul 1, 5:54 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > . >>> > >>> > > > > Lets be sensible about this ………… >>> > >>> > > > > If we totally abandon duality, for ever. We abandon our basic >>> > > > > survival package. Night and day, food or horse shit we must >>> > > > > differentiate. >>> > >>> > > > > I refuse to believe that awareness of our true nature results in >>> a >>> > > > > divorcing from the illusion. Rather the opposite. We are here >>> and >>> > > > > we are now. That’s a fact. The only fact. And here and now >>> is >>> > > > > all the observable universe in perfect symphony and unity. Our >>> > > > > illusions of self are a simple gift to enjoy the carnival passing >>> on >>> > > > > through. >>> > >>> > > > > Total Silence and total unity will occur after death …….. >>> while >>> > > > > we Are here, we must create the best Advaita illusion you can and >>> > > > > party every day. >>> > >>> > > > > Why not …… ????? We are not supposed to be miserable, >>> or >>> > > > > dead. >>> > >>> > > > > . >>> > >>> > > > > On 1 July, 11:17, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > > You sound like my wife,Marko. >>> > > > > > :) >>> > >>> > > > > > On Jul 1, 5:12 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > > > You should stay in silence Rodger. >>> > > > > > > : )) >>> > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>> > >>> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > > > > From: Rodger <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] >>> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:08:32 >>> > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> >>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Put in practice >>> > >>> > > > > > > Don't do as I do.Do as I say. >>> > >>> > > > > > > On Jul 1, 3:15 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> > > > > > > > Why do you respond to these posts if you 'vote for' >>> silence? >>> > > > > > > > Stay in silence and let us other talk about all the shit we >>> want if we like to. >>> > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>> > >>> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > > > > > From: [email protected] >>> > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:10:41 >>> > > > > > > > To: Advaita<[email protected]> >>> > >>> > > > > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] >>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Put in practice >>> > >>> > > > > > > > My duality? What's that? >>> > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>> > >>> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > > > > > From: godszen <[email protected]> >>> > > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] >>> > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:55:11 >>> > > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> >>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Put in practice >>> > >>> > > > > > > > constantly bouncing these concepts off of you, >>> > > > > > > > to see which ones feel good, >>> > > > > > > > is just reinforcing your duality >>> > >>> > > > > > > > roomsearching is right, be silent >>> > > > > > > > and sink into beingness >>> > >>> > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 6:37 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> > > > > > > > > The best way to put advaita in practice is to forget >>> advaita. >>> > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone- Hide quoted text - >>> > >>> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>> > >>> > > > - Show quoted text - >>> >> >> >
