Subjectivity is real.But,there is no desire here to write any book on it. :)
By 'real' you are meaning what? On Jul 1, 12:05 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > Boredom is not real in the sense that it is subjective and cannot be > described absolutely. > If you think that subjectivity is real, you can go ahead and write a book on > it. > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:04 PM, roomsearching <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Boredom is a description of a particular state of mind. It is not real. > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> As Marcus said...'none'. > > >> Boredom is boredom. > > >> On Jul 1, 10:11 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I am getting bored is a layer of boredom settled on the I am. > >> > I am is true. Boredom is illusion. > > >> > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > Thank you,Marcus.How's things with you? > > >> > > On Jul 1, 9:30 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > . > > >> > > > None ................................... nice one Rodger > > >> > > > . > > >> > > > On 1 July, 14:05, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > That's the way it goes. :) > > >> > > > > What's the difference between I am getting bored,and I am that? > > >> > > > > On Jul 1, 8:01 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > .....and I AM THAT! > >> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! > > >> > > > > > No day goes by without saying that magic mantra. I am getting > >> bored > >> > > with > >> > > > > > that statement as marko pointed out earlier. > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > More direct than the example is that which offers the example. > > >> > > > > > > On Jul 1, 7:46 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > There is something called awareness. As an example: Jill is > >> > > hanging out > >> > > > > > > her > >> > > > > > > > washing (objective experience) while her mind is far away, > >> > > sitting on a > >> > > > > > > > tropical island having a romantic lunch with Jack, her > >> favorite > >> > > person > >> > > > > > > > (subjective fantasy). Viewed by an astral projector or > >> > > > > > > > clairvoyant,Jill's astral reflection might be seen to be > >> having > >> > > lunch > >> > > > > > > with > >> > > > > > > > Jack under a palm tree on a beach in her backyard, > >> > > > > > > > with a line of washing hanging in the foreground and Jill's > >> house > >> > > just > >> > > > > > > > behind the scene. The objective parts of this scene have > >> > > > > > > > become mixed with subjective fantasy elements to produce > >> this > >> > > bizarre > >> > > > > > > > scenario around Jill's astral reflection. > > >> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Rodger < > >> [email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > Of course there is,marko. > > >> > > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 7:21 am, [email protected] wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as awareness and/or choice. > >> > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > >> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > > > > > > From: Rodger <[email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 05:01:41 > >> > > > > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Put in practice > > >> > > > > > > > > > Some do not believe in choice.Is that a matter of > >> awareness? > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 6:53 am, Marcus <[email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yes that’s the ticket ……………………… > > >> > > > > > > > > > > “We is what is, supposed to be or not. Or, we is > >> totally > >> > > unified.” > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The highest level of awareness is not a question or > >> > > solution. > >> > > > > > > It’s > >> > > > > > > > > > > not about silence or noise. Not even about duality > >> verses > >> > > non- > >> > > > > > > > > > > duality. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > It is the knowing that all things are exactly what > >> they are > >> > > > > > > supposed > >> > > > > > > > > > > to be. This condition of uniform correctness applies > >> to > >> > > now, > >> > > > > > > > > > > yesterday and tomorrow. This correctness governs all > >> > > realities > >> > > > > > > > > > > everywhere and always will. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Trust this and duality pails into insignificance. > >> Freedom > >> > > or > >> > > > > > > slavery > >> > > > > > > > > > > are simply a choice. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Misery is slavery. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On 1 July, 12:20, Rodger <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Be sensible,Marcus...total unity has never occurred > >> being > >> > > that > >> > > > > > > total > >> > > > > > > > > > > > unity never was not.And,if we were not supposed to > >> be > >> > > > > > > miserable,we > >> > > > > > > > > > > > would not be so.We is what is,supposed to be or > >> not.Or,we > >> > > is > >> > > > > > > totally > >> > > > > > > > > > > > unified. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 5:54 am, Marcus < > >> [email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets be sensible about this ………… > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > If we totally abandon duality, for ever. We > >> abandon > >> > > our basic > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > survival package. Night and day, food or horse > >> shit > >> > > we > >> > > > > > > must > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > differentiate. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I refuse to believe that awareness of our true > >> nature > >> > > results > >> > > > > > > in a > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > divorcing from the illusion. Rather the > >> opposite. > >> > > We are > >> > > > > > > here > >> > > > > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > we are now. That’s a fact. The only fact. > >> And > >> > > here and > >> > > > > > > now is > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > all the observable universe in perfect symphony > >> and > >> > > unity. > >> > > > > > > Our > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > illusions of self are a simple gift to enjoy the > >> > > carnival > >> > > > > > > passing > >> > > > > > > > > on > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > through. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Total Silence and total unity will occur after > >> death > >> > > …….. > >> > > > > > > > > while > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > we Are here, we must create the best Advaita > >> illusion > >> > > you can > >> > > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > party every day. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not …… ????? We are not supposed to > >> be > >> > > miserable, > >> > > > > > > or > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > dead. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1 July, 11:17, Rodger <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You sound like my wife,Marko. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > :) > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 5:12 am, [email protected]: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should stay in silence Rodger. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : )) > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Rodger <[email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:08:32 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Put in practice > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't do as I do.Do as I say. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 3:15 am, [email protected]: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you respond to these posts if you > >> 'vote > >> > > for' > >> > > > > > > silence? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay in silence and let us other talk about > >> all > >> > > the shit > >> > > > > > > we > >> > > > > > > > > want if we like to. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:10:41 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Advaita<[email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Put in practice > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My duality? What's that? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: godszen <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:55:11 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen< > >> [email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Put in practice > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constantly bouncing these concepts off of > >> you, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to see which ones feel good, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is just reinforcing your duality > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > roomsearching is right, be silent > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sink into beingness > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 6:37 am, > >> [email protected]: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best way to put advaita in practice is > >> to > >> > > forget > >> > > > > > > > > advaita. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone- Hide > >> quoted > >> > > text - > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > > - Show quoted text -
