Now that I have actually read this thread. "We must understand darkness, to appreciate light".
Also, we must understand light to appreciate darkness. Maybe it is not the light one should be chasing, but the darkness. Light is limited, one can hold their hand up and cast a shadow to block the light. Light is temporary. Sun, candle, light bulb, fire ..... all of these are temporary. Before the light was darkness, after the light will be darkness. In this vast darkness light is just a little bit if something happening. Close your eyes and your world evaporates. Just half assed paraphrasing something I read the other day. On Jul 29, 6:44 am, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: > Ya, ya.......ya, ya........ could we get back to my post "very angry"? > > On Jul 29, 6:39 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > . > > > I wondered who would challenge the assumption that in principle, we > > all agree. > > > Bit of a shock .............. > > > This is not a superficial view, but the simple fact that this > > suject's discussions continue, proves that on a base level. We are > > of a similar mind. Put another way. We agree because we are still > > here. We continue to debate the same affect. > > > Of course superficially …………….. you must disagree, of course, but > > please accept, these communications continue. > > > The discourse remains ………….. > > > . > > > On Jul 29, 12:13 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "We all agree this self illusion is created by each of us on a daily > > > basis". > > > > Do we? > > > > On Jul 29, 6:07 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > . > > > > > Communicate > > > > > Dictionary entry overview: What does communicate mean? > > > > • COMMUNICATE (verb) > > > > The verb COMMUNICATE has 7 senses: > > > > 1. transmit information > > > > 2. transmit thoughts or feelings > > > > 3. transfer to another > > > > 4. join or connect > > > > 5. be in verbal contact; interchange information or ideas > > > > 6. administer communion; in church > > > > 7. receive Communion, in the Catholic church > > > > Familiarity information: COMMUNICATE used as a verb is common. > > > > > Dictionary entry details > > > > > “transmit thoughts or feelings;” > > > > > Words are to communicate, to share some parts of you/me/us. Like > > > > sharing bread or wine. Opppppps that was someone else. > > > > > These word games we play are useful development. If the heart and > > > > mind are in agreement and eyes are open to see. These words do > > > > communicate a new message. Not any particular topic or individual. > > > > But underline essence of a new attitude, which gives rise to a new > > > > feeling. A new feeling of unity with this universe and awareness of > > > > a direct connection to the whole. > > > > > We all agree this self illusion is created by each of us on a daily > > > > basis. But within our illusions is netting which imposes constants. > > > > Like we all must exist to contemplate existence. We must eat, sleep > > > > shit and reproduce. We must battle against our own nature to uncover > > > > own true nature. We must understand darkness, to appreciate light. > > > > These are a few of the constants which bind all mankind. Allways > > > > has, always will. > > > > > In this sense, We are not different ……………….. These discussions can > > > > inspire, if you let it. > > > > > . > > > > > On Jul 29, 11:24 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If I have understood your starter post,communication is a natural > > > > > urge.If that is correct,no excuse is needed. > > > > > Early on,prior to written communication,when we were out hunting > > > > > something to eat, certain signals were used to communicate the > > > > > presence/location of whatever it was we were hunting...or whatever > > > > > might turn and hunt us.To possibly save you from being eaten I might > > > > > signal you to go left rather than right.Without that excuse(as you > > > > > call it)you might end up as food for a saber tooth.But,I signaled > > > > > you...with intent/purpose...for a reason.Which could've been...if we > > > > > didn't bring home some bacon,I would still have to put on in the > > > > > pot. :) > > > > > > On Jul 29, 4:58 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > to communicate a meaning is an excuse to communicate > > > > > > You need something to throw if you have the urge to throw. I think > > > > > > the searching for meaning comes from the need to communicate. If > > > > > > you communicate meaningful shit it is like throwing to a bigger > > > > > > distance. > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Rodger <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:53:15 > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: Re: why we conceptualize the unconceptualizable > > > > > > > About your conclusion,Marko... > > > > > > > Through the written you have intended to communicate a > > > > > > meaning,haven't you? > > > > > > > On Jul 28, 11:27 pm, Marko Gregoric <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Words again, ooh fuck! I am boring > > > > > > > > I found my self generating the bullshit I am going to write now > > > > > > > and most of > > > > > > > all I found "the source" of talking and creating all this shit. > > > > > > > The source is as I said a million times is the urge of > > > > > > > communication. I > > > > > > > think that's almost an instinct of men being social animals. > > > > > > > Did you ever notice that the world, all concepts, ideas... are in > > > > > > > fact there > > > > > > > just for the pure communication between people? > > > > > > > I think the very existence of words comes out of that. > > > > > > > I need to talk with you so I have to "word" it. > > > > > > > Let's take the example of awareness. Where and what is awareness > > > > > > > when there > > > > > > > is no need to rationalize, put in words, explain. > > > > > > > Here the point is not what is awareness or if it exists or not. I > > > > > > > am not > > > > > > > interested in that. What I am interested is: > > > > > > > Why am I writing this post? > > > > > > > Because I need to communicate with you. > > > > > > > My conclusion is that the meaning of the written is not really > > > > > > > important as > > > > > > > much as is the fact the we need to talk. > > > > > > > > ps Would there be any "Parabrahman" if gurus had not have the > > > > > > > urge to speak > > > > > > > to people? > > > > > > > > So I think the source of the universe is that very social urge to > > > > > > > talk about > > > > > > > it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
