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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marcus.I see what you're saying. > Should 'spiritual'...or spirit...be thought of as > awareness,consciousness,brahman,the absolute,thought,or what have > you...even bozo...all knowledge is spiritual.One could say,spirit > can't be defined,does the defining...spirit can't be created,does the > creating,etc..One is aware of spirit by means of being the aware > spirit...the spirit which is aware...on and on. > As far as society evolving...what is society but evolving > spirit...which is alone,naturally? > > > > > > On Jul 30, 8:36 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > . > > > > “might be called 'ordinary horse sense'?” > > > > I feel sure “spiritual knowledge” is very basic to our being. It > > is ordinary horse sense. Its just that society has evolved in such a > > way that “ordinary horse sense” has been overlaid with a need to > > comply to the raining social order. Each generation is > > systematically groomed to conform and in doing so, we loose sight of > > our “ordinary horse sense” of spiritual knowledge. > > I am convinced that if left alone to evolve naturally, most humans > > would have a much greater spiritual knowledge. > > > > This whole enlightenment gig is really just trying to undo the > > centuries of dogma and conditioning of the masses. > > > > In truth ………… spiritual knowledge is more ordinary sense than > > capitalism, consumerism or religion. > > > > We strive to return to our true nature …………………….. break free …….. > > > > . > > On Jul 30, 1:49 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Or do you think I am just showing off? > > > Yes or no? > > > Either way,would that be a form of spiritual knowledge? > > > > > On Jul 30, 7:46 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > 'Only You' is an old song sung by a group called the Platters.From > the > > > > late 50's I think.Maybe early 60's.Either way,could this be a > > > > definition of spiritual knowledge? > > > > > > On Jul 30, 6:32 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Ok...so only you is being asked.Will only you answer the > question?Only > > > > > you can keep it to a simple yes or no,if only you prefers. > > > > > :) > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 6:24 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > There is nobody else. There is only you. > > > > > > > > God damn, RS you've really influenced me! > > > > > > : )) > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Rodger <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > > > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:12:43 > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: Re: 'Spiritual knowledge' > > > > > > > > I think the expression,'Use it or lose it' is spiritual > knowledge. > > > > > > Does anyone else? > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 10:02 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Nice,Marcus...very grand definition.And not saying it isn't so. > > > > > > > But,I'm wondering...what do you think...could spiritual > knowledge also > > > > > > > be something less grand...something maybe > 'ordinary'...something maybe > > > > > > > what might be called 'ordinary horse sense'? > > > > > > > For instance,don't smack your thumb with a hammer?Don't spit in > the > > > > > > > wind?Don't pull the mask off the Lone Ranger,and don't mess > around > > > > > > > with Jim? :) > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 9:50 am, Marcus <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion ………….. In my experience > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge is uncovered when the individual > experiences an > > > > > > > > intangible connection with the universe. A feeling unlike > any > > > > > > > > other. Euphoria and elation is felt as the apparent > boundaries of > > > > > > > > the self disappear. A bit like feeling very big and very > small at > > > > > > > > the same time. When felt it is unforgettable. All the > universe > > > > > > > > seems to glow with warmth and kindness. As if the universal > spirit > > > > > > > > and me are one. No time or dimensions, no separation. The > > > > > > > > universal “I am” is felt. > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge is experienced. When experience one > knows all > > > > > > > > that the self can be and enjoys it. > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2:19 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The other person has never been another person > either,Marcus. > > > > > > > > > > > In your estimation,would the above fit into any definition > of > > > > > > > > > 'spiritual knowledge'? > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 8:13 am, Marcus <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never been another person. Or I don't remember. > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I the same as other people ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 1:15 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marcus, you weren't asked to define it for another.You > were asked for > > > > > > > > > > > your definition.Besides,I wouldn't be so sure that you > can't define it > > > > > > > > > > > for another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 6:54 am, Marcus < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.5 Billion people exist today. Each unique. Each > with there own > > > > > > > > > > > > potential Spiritual Knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No-one can tell another what it is. The individual > must uncover > > > > > > > > > > > > their own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “How would you define that?” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No-one can for another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it’s about coming face to face with your own > soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only you can do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 12:47 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pure ignorance > > > > > > > > > > > > > : ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Rodger > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sender: Advaita > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Advaita > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: 'Spiritual knowledge' > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Jul 29, 2010 1:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How would you define that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone- Hide quoted text > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - >
