there is no laugh there is nobody laughing there is no range to be deranged there is no comment there is no saving
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: > Some of your comments should be considered criminal. > Not sure if that makes you a criminal. > Most of your deranged comments actually make laugh out loud. > Does that make me an accessory? > Let me save you some non existent time. > "Fuck off Bob", "Who cares of you laugh", "There is no me to be an > accessory", "Fuck off and die" > There .............. That should wrap up this thread. > > On Jul 31, 4:41 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do you mean to say I was a criminal ? no. But i did commit a few crimes > in > > my own moral system. > > > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "But eventually the beast becomes broken and the spirit steps forward > > > to > > > lift and inspire the being and take charge of the beast". > > > > > Ever wonder why so many long term prisoners become spiritual or > > > religious? > > > When he ego is beaten or down, "it" rises. > > > > > On Jul 30, 12:53 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > RS has two left feet. :) > > > > > > On Jul 30, 12:12 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > RS is doing the Advaita Shuffle.. > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > On 30 Lug, 17:33, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > there is no society > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Marcus < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > “what is society but evolving spirit...which is alone, > naturally?” > > > > > > > > > But “spirit” as a universal non-dual unlimited consciousness > has > > > no > > > > > > > evolution. It is. It’s our illusions of consciousness which > > > shift, > > > > > > > change, perhaps evolve. > > > > > > > > > I see us as a connection between the illusion of self and thee > > > > > > > universal whole which is everything in unity. (Advaita) We > can > > > only > > > > > > > surmise from these view-points of the self, and yet. In brief > > > > > > > moments we can also see/feel the expanse of the whole. > > > > > > > Metaphorically, We are the union of a angel and a beast. A > > > supposed > > > > > > > blend of two opposing realms of awareness. Each allegedly to > teach > > > > > > > the other some sort of lesson. These are old metaphors but > none > > > the > > > > > > > less, very useful in trying to get your head around the human > being > > > > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > Almost as if when the beast side of our being is the most > robust > > > and > > > > > > > the spiritual side steps back and lets the beast take charge. > But > > > > > > > eventually the beast becomes broken and the spirit steps > forward to > > > > > > > lift and inspire the being and take charge of the beast. > > > > > > > > > The great and noble surrender of the ego …………………… or > crucifixion > > > of > > > > > > > the old self, to make way for the new self. > > > > > > > > > As you see. These are not new ideas. > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 3:03 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Marcus.I see what you're saying. > > > > > > > > Should 'spiritual'...or spirit...be thought of as > > > > > > > > awareness,consciousness,brahman,the absolute,thought,or what > have > > > > > > > > you...even bozo...all knowledge is spiritual.One could > say,spirit > > > > > > > > can't be defined,does the defining...spirit can't be > created,does > > > the > > > > > > > > creating,etc..One is aware of spirit by means of being the > aware > > > > > > > > spirit...the spirit which is aware...on and on. > > > > > > > > As far as society evolving...what is society but evolving > > > > > > > > spirit...which is alone,naturally? > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 8:36 am, Marcus <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > “might be called 'ordinary horse sense'?” > > > > > > > > > > > I feel sure “spiritual knowledge” is very basic to our > > > being. It > > > > > > > > > is ordinary horse sense. Its just that society has evolved > in > > > such a > > > > > > > > > way that “ordinary horse sense” has been overlaid with a > need > > > to > > > > > > > > > comply to the raining social order. Each generation is > > > > > > > > > systematically groomed to conform and in doing so, we loose > > > sight of > > > > > > > > > our “ordinary horse sense” of spiritual knowledge. > > > > > > > > > I am convinced that if left alone to evolve naturally, > most > > > humans > > > > > > > > > would have a much greater spiritual knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > This whole enlightenment gig is really just trying to undo > the > > > > > > > > > centuries of dogma and conditioning of the masses. > > > > > > > > > > > In truth ………… spiritual knowledge is more ordinary sense > than > > > > > > > > > capitalism, consumerism or religion. > > > > > > > > > > > We strive to return to our true nature …………………….. break > > > free …….. > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 1:49 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think I am just showing off? > > > > > > > > > > Yes or no? > > > > > > > > > > Either way,would that be a form of spiritual knowledge? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 7:46 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Only You' is an old song sung by a group called the > > > Platters.From > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > late 50's I think.Maybe early 60's.Either way,could > this be > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > definition of spiritual knowledge? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 6:32 am, Rodger <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok...so only you is being asked.Will only you answer > the > > > > > > > question?Only > > > > > > > > > > > > you can keep it to a simple yes or no,if only you > > > prefers. > > > > > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 6:24 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nobody else. There is only you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God damn, RS you've really influenced me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > : )) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Rodger <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:12:43 > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: 'Spiritual knowledge' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the expression,'Use it or lose it' is > spiritual > > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 10:02 am, Rodger <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice,Marcus...very grand definition.And not > saying it > > > isn't > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,I'm wondering...what do you think...could > > > spiritual > > > > > > > knowledge also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be something less grand...something maybe > > > > > > > 'ordinary'...something maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what might be called 'ordinary horse sense'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance,don't smack your thumb with a > > > hammer?Don't spit > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wind?Don't pull the mask off the Lone Ranger,and > > > don't mess > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Jim? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 9:50 am, Marcus < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion ………….. In my experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge is uncovered when the > > > individual > > > > > > > experiences an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intangible connection with the universe. A > > > feeling unlike > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other. Euphoria and elation is felt as the > > > apparent > > > > > > > boundaries of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the self disappear. A bit like feeling very > big > > > and > > > > > > > very small at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same time. When felt it is unforgettable. > > > All the > > > > > > > universe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to glow with warmth and kindness. As if > the > > > > > > > universal spirit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and me are one. No time or dimensions, no > > > separation. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > universal “I am” is felt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge is experienced. When > > > experience one > > > > > > > knows all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the self can be and enjoys it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2:19 pm, Rodger < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other person has never been another > person > > > > > > > either,Marcus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your estimation,would the above fit into > any > > > > > > > definition of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'spiritual knowledge'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 8:13 am, Marcus < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never been another person. Or I > don't > > > remember. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I the same as other people ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 1:15 pm, Rodger < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marcus, you weren't asked to define it > for > > > > > > > another.You were asked for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your definition.Besides,I wouldn't be so > sure > > > that > > > > > > > you can't define it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 6:54 am, Marcus < > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.5 Billion people exist today. Each > > > unique. Each > > > > > > > with there own > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > potential Spiritual Knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No-one can tell another what it is. > The > > > > > > > individual must uncover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “How would you define that?” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No-one can for another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it’s about coming face to face > with > > > your > > > > > > > own soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only you can do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 12:47 pm, > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pure ignorance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > > > > ... > > > > read more »
