Some of your comments should be considered criminal. Not sure if that makes you a criminal. Most of your deranged comments actually make laugh out loud. Does that make me an accessory? Let me save you some non existent time. "Fuck off Bob", "Who cares of you laugh", "There is no me to be an accessory", "Fuck off and die" There .............. That should wrap up this thread.
On Jul 31, 4:41 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > Do you mean to say I was a criminal ? no. But i did commit a few crimes in > my own moral system. > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: > > "But eventually the beast becomes broken and the spirit steps forward > > to > > lift and inspire the being and take charge of the beast". > > > Ever wonder why so many long term prisoners become spiritual or > > religious? > > When he ego is beaten or down, "it" rises. > > > On Jul 30, 12:53 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > RS has two left feet. :) > > > > On Jul 30, 12:12 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > RS is doing the Advaita Shuffle.. > > > > > :-) > > > > > Kali > > > > > On 30 Lug, 17:33, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > there is no society > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > . > > > > > > > “what is society but evolving spirit...which is alone, naturally?” > > > > > > > But “spirit” as a universal non-dual unlimited consciousness has > > no > > > > > > evolution. It is. It’s our illusions of consciousness which > > shift, > > > > > > change, perhaps evolve. > > > > > > > I see us as a connection between the illusion of self and thee > > > > > > universal whole which is everything in unity. (Advaita) We can > > only > > > > > > surmise from these view-points of the self, and yet. In brief > > > > > > moments we can also see/feel the expanse of the whole. > > > > > > Metaphorically, We are the union of a angel and a beast. A > > supposed > > > > > > blend of two opposing realms of awareness. Each allegedly to teach > > > > > > the other some sort of lesson. These are old metaphors but none > > the > > > > > > less, very useful in trying to get your head around the human being > > > > > > concept. > > > > > > > Almost as if when the beast side of our being is the most robust > > and > > > > > > the spiritual side steps back and lets the beast take charge. But > > > > > > eventually the beast becomes broken and the spirit steps forward to > > > > > > lift and inspire the being and take charge of the beast. > > > > > > > The great and noble surrender of the ego …………………… or crucifixion > > of > > > > > > the old self, to make way for the new self. > > > > > > > As you see. These are not new ideas. > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 3:03 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Marcus.I see what you're saying. > > > > > > > Should 'spiritual'...or spirit...be thought of as > > > > > > > awareness,consciousness,brahman,the absolute,thought,or what have > > > > > > > you...even bozo...all knowledge is spiritual.One could say,spirit > > > > > > > can't be defined,does the defining...spirit can't be created,does > > the > > > > > > > creating,etc..One is aware of spirit by means of being the aware > > > > > > > spirit...the spirit which is aware...on and on. > > > > > > > As far as society evolving...what is society but evolving > > > > > > > spirit...which is alone,naturally? > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 8:36 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > “might be called 'ordinary horse sense'?” > > > > > > > > > I feel sure “spiritual knowledge” is very basic to our > > being. It > > > > > > > > is ordinary horse sense. Its just that society has evolved in > > such a > > > > > > > > way that “ordinary horse sense” has been overlaid with a need > > to > > > > > > > > comply to the raining social order. Each generation is > > > > > > > > systematically groomed to conform and in doing so, we loose > > sight of > > > > > > > > our “ordinary horse sense” of spiritual knowledge. > > > > > > > > I am convinced that if left alone to evolve naturally, most > > humans > > > > > > > > would have a much greater spiritual knowledge. > > > > > > > > > This whole enlightenment gig is really just trying to undo the > > > > > > > > centuries of dogma and conditioning of the masses. > > > > > > > > > In truth ………… spiritual knowledge is more ordinary sense than > > > > > > > > capitalism, consumerism or religion. > > > > > > > > > We strive to return to our true nature …………………….. break > > free …….. > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 1:49 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think I am just showing off? > > > > > > > > > Yes or no? > > > > > > > > > Either way,would that be a form of spiritual knowledge? > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 7:46 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > 'Only You' is an old song sung by a group called the > > Platters.From > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > late 50's I think.Maybe early 60's.Either way,could this be > > a > > > > > > > > > > definition of spiritual knowledge? > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 6:32 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok...so only you is being asked.Will only you answer the > > > > > > question?Only > > > > > > > > > > > you can keep it to a simple yes or no,if only you > > prefers. > > > > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 6:24 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nobody else. There is only you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > God damn, RS you've really influenced me! > > > > > > > > > > > > : )) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Rodger <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:12:43 > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: 'Spiritual knowledge' > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the expression,'Use it or lose it' is spiritual > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 10:02 am, Rodger <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice,Marcus...very grand definition.And not saying it > > isn't > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,I'm wondering...what do you think...could > > spiritual > > > > > > knowledge also > > > > > > > > > > > > > be something less grand...something maybe > > > > > > 'ordinary'...something maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > what might be called 'ordinary horse sense'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance,don't smack your thumb with a > > hammer?Don't spit > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > wind?Don't pull the mask off the Lone Ranger,and > > don't mess > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Jim? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 9:50 am, Marcus < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion ………….. In my experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge is uncovered when the > > individual > > > > > > experiences an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intangible connection with the universe. A > > feeling unlike > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other. Euphoria and elation is felt as the > > apparent > > > > > > boundaries of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the self disappear. A bit like feeling very big > > and > > > > > > very small at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same time. When felt it is unforgettable. > > All the > > > > > > universe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to glow with warmth and kindness. As if the > > > > > > universal spirit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and me are one. No time or dimensions, no > > separation. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > universal “I am” is felt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge is experienced. When > > experience one > > > > > > knows all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the self can be and enjoys it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2:19 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other person has never been another person > > > > > > either,Marcus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your estimation,would the above fit into any > > > > > > definition of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'spiritual knowledge'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 8:13 am, Marcus < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never been another person. Or I don't > > remember. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I the same as other people ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 1:15 pm, Rodger < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marcus, you weren't asked to define it for > > > > > > another.You were asked for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your definition.Besides,I wouldn't be so sure > > that > > > > > > you can't define it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 6:54 am, Marcus < > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.5 Billion people exist today. Each > > unique. Each > > > > > > with there own > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > potential Spiritual Knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No-one can tell another what it is. The > > > > > > individual must uncover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “How would you define that?” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No-one can for another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it’s about coming face to face with > > your > > > > > > own soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only you can do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 12:47 pm, > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pure ignorance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > > ... > > read more »
