Well Marcus,

The only way America can be fixed,
Is if it collapses

On Aug 20, 9:05 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:
> .
>
> Yes ….. very much so.
> In the western world,  many are robbed of the truth of themselves by
> an endless  programme of delusion.  The delusion of materialism.   The
> delusion that avoiding self is possible.   Politics, religion and
> business all need to sustain their hold on the masses.   If you feel
> unhappy take a pill, buy something, go some where sunny.   These all
> suggest avoiding the real issue of self control and responsibility.
> But then again if everyone became self-aware,  the very fabric of this
> society would collapse.  And yes perhaps one day it must.  So those
> who survive can start again.
> The new era,  the age of Aquarius the water bearer (purification) of
> human collective psychic.
>
> Who knows ……….  change is the only constant.
>
> .
> On Aug 20, 2:29 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > I am starting to believe that people do not realize who/what they really 
> > are because of the lack of suffering.
> > Absurd, isn't it?
> > : )
> > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob1357 <[email protected]>
>
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 06:01:23
> > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Why suddenly one chooses to do the I am sense watching
>
> > "This I think is the purpose of pain and suffering".
> > Stick your hand in fire.
> > It hurts.
> > Jump off a roof.
> > It hurts.
> > Do something that you know you shouldn't.
> > It hurts.
> > It's all a learning cycle.
>
> > On Aug 20, 7:57 am, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Be true to yourself.
> > > Only.
>
> > > On Aug 19, 4:14 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > .
>
> > > > This so true Marko,
>
> > > > In the past so much of my education suggest that there is stuff I can
> > > > own, lead, control, adopt, appose, compete with, love or hate.   So-
> > > > called civilised society presents the would in such a preformed
> > > > package.  It’s bloody painful when we live these delusional cycles of
> > > > expectation and disappointment.   But looking back,  it’s strange how
> > > > it all becomes so essential.    How pain and suffering are the only
> > > > way we mere-mortals learn.   If it was not for all my years of
> > > > stupidity, I might not have looked for a better way of being me.
> > > > This I think is the purpose of pain and suffering.   When the human
> > > > heart says, enough is enough.   The time has come to search for a
> > > > better way.   Finally we all arrive at roughly the same conclusion.
> > > > Today is the only true reality and being good is much for fun than
> > > > being bad.
>
> > > > King Solomon’s treasure is that wealth which occurs when each day one
> > > > lives this personel truth.   (Solomon is an old word for peace)   King
> > > > Solomon was famous for his wisdom.   Full responsibilty of the self
> > > > using peaceful wisdom.
>
> > > > Enlightenment, awakening, self realisation,  Kingdom of heaven.  All
> > > > these wonderful historic labels where only to suggest to those
> > > > searching,  that such emancipation from pain and suffering is humanly
> > > > possible.
>
> > > > Happiness needs unhappiness,  hence their non-duality.  Advaita.
>
> > > > Welcome to the real world …………………
>
> > > > .
>
> > > > On Aug 19, 9:05 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > I think one has to be deluded a 'million' times by entertaining 
> > > > > thoughts in order to suddenly understand this always leads to 
> > > > > delusion. I had to try all the shit before I convinced my mind that 
> > > > > every field of thought leads to delusion. Nobody was able to convince 
> > > > > me until I tried all the shit myself. After that once I've really 
> > > > > tried the I am sense watching and I saw that is the only path which 
> > > > > produces 'results', it was all finished.
> > > > > What I want to emphasise here is the importance of learning by one's 
> > > > > own experience, the importance of suffering as the thing which tells 
> > > > > you where not to go, the importance of getting burnt after touching 
> > > > > fire, a million times, until you realize you won't touch it again.
> > > > > The imprtance of other people advice (even guru's advice) is limited 
> > > > > in comparison to one's own try-fail-try-  succeed exercise.
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