Hey FLI.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:33 PM, fearlessinquirer <[email protected]>wrote:

> There is no such thing as 'spiritual progress'. Progress implies time
> and time is mind.



Yes.



> Where there is no mind, there is no time.



In mindlessness...(to use a term).........the presence and absence of
time...
....BOTH are moot.




> The aim of  spirituality, adviata, is to disolve the mind but most get lost
> in
> translation.




If there is nothing as progress, there cannot be anything as aim.

One implies the other.

Advaita simply means not-two.

In-not-two-ness.........what aim can exist?

Why not?

In not-twoness, who is the other, for whom the very not-twoness is something
to be aimed at for understanding.


The sense of a mind can never be dissolved.

Just like awake today morning you cannot make love to the beautiful woman in
the last night-sleep dream drama.






> 'spritual progress' is no progress. It simply goes around
> in circles but since you are in motion, you call this progress.
>


The sense of a mind is really the sense of change.

When change is held to be real.........depending on some innate
conditioning, change is held to be moving towards a self constructed goal,
hence progressing.

Or moving away and thus regressing .

Rather than progress or regress..........for whom is change.....a change.





> Progress in only in time and in spirituality there is no time, no
> space, no concepts, only THIS pristine presence incarnate in Being as
> attention, now, consciousness, give it whatever perfume you please; it
> remains purely unattached and stiil.
>



And finally(without a connotation of an event in time or a progressive
realization)....

...the concepts of "attention", "now", "consciousness" also implode.

Of course the referencing of an implosion......is once more conceptual hoo
haa.

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