Hey KT,

The eye (I) that sees cannot speak for it has no mouth. The mouth that
speaks cannot see for it is not eye (I).

Words can only point to ultimate truth, but never are ultimate truth,
and intellectual understanding without directly realizing the truth
through one's own investigation is not enough.



On Aug 24, 1:57 pm, Kuber Technologies <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hey FLI.
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:33 PM, fearlessinquirer 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > There is no such thing as 'spiritual progress'. Progress implies time
> > and time is mind.
>
> Yes.
>
> > Where there is no mind, there is no time.
>
> In mindlessness...(to use a term).........the presence and absence of
> time...
> ....BOTH are moot.
>
> > The aim of  spirituality, adviata, is to disolve the mind but most get lost
> > in
> > translation.
>
> If there is nothing as progress, there cannot be anything as aim.
>
> One implies the other.
>
> Advaita simply means not-two.
>
> In-not-two-ness.........what aim can exist?
>
> Why not?
>
> In not-twoness, who is the other, for whom the very not-twoness is something
> to be aimed at for understanding.
>
> The sense of a mind can never be dissolved.
>
> Just like awake today morning you cannot make love to the beautiful woman in
> the last night-sleep dream drama.
>
> > 'spritual progress' is no progress. It simply goes around
> > in circles but since you are in motion, you call this progress.
>
> The sense of a mind is really the sense of change.
>
> When change is held to be real.........depending on some innate
> conditioning, change is held to be moving towards a self constructed goal,
> hence progressing.
>
> Or moving away and thus regressing .
>
> Rather than progress or regress..........for whom is change.....a change.
>
> > Progress in only in time and in spirituality there is no time, no
> > space, no concepts, only THIS pristine presence incarnate in Being as
> > attention, now, consciousness, give it whatever perfume you please; it
> > remains purely unattached and stiil.
>
> And finally(without a connotation of an event in time or a progressive
> realization)....
>
> ...the concepts of "attention", "now", "consciousness" also implode.
>
> Of course the referencing of an implosion......is once more conceptual hoo
> haa.

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