Since the Beedi dude is supposed to be the expert in such matters...........Godzen......
here is what he kept on growling at poor seekers appearing in front of him "I do not negate the world. I see it as appearing in consciousness, which is the totality of the known in the immensity of the unknown. What begins and ends is mere appearance. The world can be said to appear, but not to "be". The appearance may last very long on some scale of time, and be very short on another, but ultimately it comes to the same. Whatever is time bound is momentary and has no reality." ---------- And that world which can be said to appear but not to be ......... ...is a collation of experiences.........both the mundane and the profound..... .....experiences which include a satsangh with the energy-exuding-Master. Or a satsangh with the energy-sapping divine mistress in a bordello. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Kuber Technologies < [email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:04 AM, godszen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> so the universe, all creation, and your life is a concept? >> >> and to be dismissed as such? >> > > > A dismissal needs a substantivity of the to-be-dismissed. > > Awake today morning, sipping from a hot cup of tea........do you dismiss > the drama of last night sleep dream? > > > > > Or there is a prevailing knowing (to use a word) of the intrinsic nature of > appearing gestalts, > > .............whether that be the awake-dream drama or the sleep-dream > drama, or the deep-sleep-state. > > > > A prevailing knowing , which does not dawn because it is never not so ..... > > ......and in the absence of the dawning, there is no dusking. > > No alpha, no omega. > > Which off course makes the term "prevailing" superfluous. > > > > > A knowing, in which there is neither the presence of acceptance, or the > presence of negation/dismissing..... > > ..... and neither their absences. > > > > A knowing which apperceives that appearing gestalts are not apart, not > separate.... > > > ............as there is no independent, separative loci at which the > appearing gestalt > > can get anchored...... > > > > .....and simultaneously apperceives the durational conceptuality of > appearances. > > > > Thus the immanence and the simultaneous transcendence of the immanence. > > > Call it Turiyatta or awareness-not-aware-of-itself.........or > Bozo.........makes no difference. > > > >
