Ps. I never did something several times a day if the positive result wasn't 
palpable.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 04:44:33 
To: Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Cc: godszen<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Emptiness

I think that what your mum says will do.
The sense of I am never changes.
Anyway I think you have to try and see for yourself.
What happens doing this you have to find on your own, because if I tell you (as 
I did) you will be expecting that.
Try and see.
All I can say is that it is worth trying (at least for me, now I am doing it 
every day several times)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 01:09:55 
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
Cc: godszen<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Emptiness

Let me get this absolutely straight (what you are doing) so I can do the same 
thing and see what is true for me

By watching "I am sense" you mean?

The sense of myself that I have had since I was a small boy - the me that knows 
it is me - the same part my mum might have said "I don't feel any different now 
I am seventy to the way I felt when I was three, I remember some things like 
they happened yesterday, I am still the same person" about?

Not my identity - that which I attach to the sense which makes me who I am by 
what I do in life?

So I watch the sense of consistently being the same person my whole life - and 
get bliss?

Then I disappear?

Then?

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On 28 Aug 2010, at 17:11, [email protected] wrote:

> If you keep doing the I am sense watching, all becomes appearance empty of a 
> sense of beingness, you included.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: godszen <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:05:21 
> To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Emptiness
> 
> there is no emptiness here, on the contrary,
> it's quite palpable, even thick, heavy, unbearable
> at times
> 
> On Aug 28, 12:51 am, [email protected] wrote:
>> Emptiness is not the absence of subject and/or objects, it is the absence of 
>> the feeling/sense of beingness of the observed subject/objects.
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