And most of all do not get involved in thoughts. Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:23:00 To: Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Cc: godszen<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> Subject: Re: Emptiness Leave alone the body feelings. Forget there is a body, hands, water... Concentrate just on your beingness. On that by which you know that you are. Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone -----Original Message----- From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:01:39 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Cc: godszen<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> Subject: Re: Emptiness So "I am" washing my hair in the shower and awareness is where senses meet - scalp meets fingers and knows fingers as fingers meet hair and knows it as hair... Water falls upon my back a one way street I only sense it falling on me do not feel it from inside the water Where are my feet? Sent from an iPhone On 29 Aug 2010, at 05:44, [email protected] wrote: > I think that what your mum says will do. > The sense of I am never changes. > Anyway I think you have to try and see for yourself. > What happens doing this you have to find on your own, because if I tell you > (as I did) you will be expecting that. > Try and see. > All I can say is that it is worth trying (at least for me, now I am doing it > every day several times) > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 01:09:55 > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Cc: godszen<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Emptiness > > Let me get this absolutely straight (what you are doing) so I can do the same > thing and see what is true for me > > By watching "I am sense" you mean? > > The sense of myself that I have had since I was a small boy - the me that > knows it is me - the same part my mum might have said "I don't feel any > different now I am seventy to the way I felt when I was three, I remember > some things like they happened yesterday, I am still the same person" about? > > Not my identity - that which I attach to the sense which makes me who I am by > what I do in life? > > So I watch the sense of consistently being the same person my whole life - > and get bliss? > > Then I disappear? > > Then? > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 28 Aug 2010, at 17:11, [email protected] wrote: > >> If you keep doing the I am sense watching, all becomes appearance empty of a >> sense of beingness, you included. >> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: godszen <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:05:21 >> To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Emptiness >> >> there is no emptiness here, on the contrary, >> it's quite palpable, even thick, heavy, unbearable >> at times >> >> On Aug 28, 12:51 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> Emptiness is not the absence of subject and/or objects, it is the absence >>> of the feeling/sense of beingness of the observed subject/objects. >>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone
