It is not a void it is a feeling (for me : ) ) Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:02:15 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Cc: godszen<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> Subject: Re: Emptiness My beingness is my nothingness it is just a void anything I add to that is illusion - I think I may be a butterfly trying to realise I am a caterpillar here - perhaps there is nothing else to get (for me :-) Sent from an iPhone On 29 Aug 2010, at 11:23, [email protected] wrote: > Leave alone the body feelings. Forget there is a body, hands, water... > Concentrate just on your beingness. On that by which you know that you are. > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:01:39 > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Cc: godszen<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Emptiness > > So "I am" washing my hair in the shower and awareness is where senses meet - > scalp meets fingers and knows fingers as fingers meet hair and knows it as > hair... > > Water falls upon my back a one way street I only sense it falling on me do > not feel it from inside the water > > Where are my feet? > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 29 Aug 2010, at 05:44, [email protected] wrote: > >> I think that what your mum says will do. >> The sense of I am never changes. >> Anyway I think you have to try and see for yourself. >> What happens doing this you have to find on your own, because if I tell you >> (as I did) you will be expecting that. >> Try and see. >> All I can say is that it is worth trying (at least for me, now I am doing it >> every day several times) >> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> >> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 01:09:55 >> To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >> Cc: godszen<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Emptiness >> >> Let me get this absolutely straight (what you are doing) so I can do the >> same thing and see what is true for me >> >> By watching "I am sense" you mean? >> >> The sense of myself that I have had since I was a small boy - the me that >> knows it is me - the same part my mum might have said "I don't feel any >> different now I am seventy to the way I felt when I was three, I remember >> some things like they happened yesterday, I am still the same person" about? >> >> Not my identity - that which I attach to the sense which makes me who I am >> by what I do in life? >> >> So I watch the sense of consistently being the same person my whole life - >> and get bliss? >> >> Then I disappear? >> >> Then? >> >> Sent from an iPhone >> >> On 28 Aug 2010, at 17:11, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> If you keep doing the I am sense watching, all becomes appearance empty of >>> a sense of beingness, you included. >>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: godszen <[email protected]> >>> Sender: [email protected] >>> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:05:21 >>> To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Emptiness >>> >>> there is no emptiness here, on the contrary, >>> it's quite palpable, even thick, heavy, unbearable >>> at times >>> >>> On Aug 28, 12:51 am, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Emptiness is not the absence of subject and/or objects, it is the absence >>>> of the feeling/sense of beingness of the observed subject/objects. >>>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone
