The perceiver cannot be perceived. Anything that is perceived is not the
perceiver.


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 4:23 PM, fearlessinquirer <[email protected]>wrote:

> "Only when the mind stops does Consciousness behold Itself."
>
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> On Sep 4, 11:21 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > Consciousness 'is' saying that.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]>
> >
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:15:44
> > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Being aware of your self
> >
> > who is saying "No, that is consciousness."? it appears a perceiver is
> > percieving consciouness also.
> >
> > On Sep 4, 11:09 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > > No, that is consciousness.
> > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]>
> >
> > > Sender: [email protected]
> > > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 07:59:37
> > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: Being aware of your self
> >
> > > who is speaking/writing? isn't that the perceiver?
> >
> > > On Sep 4, 10:50 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > I know nothing about the perceiver because I've never perceived it.
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > Sender: [email protected]
> > > > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 07:46:19
> > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: Being aware of your self
> >
> > > > If it doesn't exist then who is the perceiver. Does the perciever
> have
> > > > a birth certificate?  Does the perciever come and go? Is the
> perceiver
> > > > always there or not there at all?
> >
> > > > On Sep 4, 6:12 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > You can't. What you can be aware of is not your self. You can be
> aware of  beingness aka of  your I am sense, so that sense is not your real
> self. Your real self is impossible to perceive, so don't loose time trying
> to do so.
> > > > > Of course what I am referring here when I say 'your real self' is
> just an idea because I can't really refer to that which doesn't exist. I say
> it doesn't exist because I define something to exist with something which is
> perceivable.
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