intelligent awareness

On Oct 11, 2:28 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote:
> I read about this too
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> Separate issues
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> Does not mean he was not enlightened
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> Who is it who is judging him?
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> Cheers
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> Mark
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> Sent from an iPhone
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> On 11 Oct 2010, at 08:55, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > .
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> > Adi Da,
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> > Adi Da was born Franklin Albert Jones on November 3, 1939
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> > Distinguishing his from other religious traditions, Adi Da declared
> > that he was a uniquely historic avatar (incarnation of a god in human
> > form). As such, Adi Da stated that devotional worship of him is the
> > sole means of spiritual enlightenment for others.
> > In the mid 1980s, allegations by former followers of financial,
> > sexual and emotional abuses within Adidam received international media
> > attention. These allegations resulted in lawsuits or threatened suits
> > on both sides.
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> > Asian religions scholar Scott Lowe was an early follower of Adi Da and
> > lived in the community in 1974. In an essay later analyzing what he
> > had witnessed as well as Adi Da's subsequent career, he perceives a
> > pattern of "abusive, manipulative, and self-centered" behavior, saying
> > "does it necessarily follow that the individual who is 'liberated' is
> > free to indulge in what appear to be egocentric, hurtful, and damaging
> > actions in the name of spiritual freedom? I personally think not,
> > while acknowledging the subtlety and complexity of the ongoing debate.
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> > Be very careful of men who say they know your truth.
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> > Godzen, why does a truly enlighten man change his name  ???
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> > .
> > On Oct 9, 4:42 am, godszen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Marcus wrote:
> >>> Interesting basic principle.
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> >>> Also true,  if no-one witnesses an event it can only exist as a human
> >>> theory.
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> >>> And yet who truly interoperates what they witness ???
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> >>> These in mind.   Question consciousness beyond live.
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> >>> Who is brave enough to say they know ?
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> >>    Adi Da

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