I think you are on the right track Ram and what's been seen here is that the grace of any guru lies in the definition graciousness...
adjective *1 *courteous, kind, and pleasant *: smiling and gracious in defeat.* • pleasantly indulgent, esp. toward an inferior. Let's forget any notions of inferiority. All atoms are equal, superiority is a distinction. True grace would be recognising the individual identity of another such that nothing is added and nothing is taken away. Allowing the story of that person to be. Sometimes simply listening to a story about life without intervention or reaction is enough to heal that issue permanently. Without judgement the illusion can be seen for what it really is. It seems like divine grace, yet in reality all that has happened is the story was given space and without anything to rub up against dissolves. On 15 February 2011 09:56, YouWho? <[email protected]> wrote: > The grace of the guru is often misunderstood. The grace of the guru is > his teaching. The knowledge which removes ignorance. Once the > ignorance is understood and discarded by means of knowledge(jnana), > the true guru tells you then to even throw off that knowledge which is > the greatest ignorance. That is the highest grace. The empowerment > that the guru seems to give which allows the Self to abide as itself > without ignorance or knowledge. Grace is not some external force or > power, it is the guidance that the Self gives to itself to awaken > itself. Anything else is only in the realm of passing appearances, > which have no substance. Even the grace, on the ultimate level has no > substance in Illusion. It only points to substance/essence that is > beyond and prior to Illusion. > > Blah, blah, blah... Pop goes the BOZO! > > Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...... > > On Feb 14, 9:19 pm, godszen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mark Ty-Wharton wrote: > > > he was right next to him? > > > > > I am right next to a pair of speakers and a nice chest of drawers, it > isn't > > > responsible for my illumination should I choose to lose myself in it! > > > > your speakers and chest of drawers are likely not > > > > radiating tangible, pure energetic love-joy > > > > > On a path, following someone... > > > > > = LOST > > > > it's more like finding the Divine > > > > and realizing it > -- *mark ty wharton* click the link and read GURU<http://www.myebook.com/index.php?option=ebook&id=12255> _____________________________________________________ ______________________________________ The contents of this email and the context of the message and any attachments are intended for the recipient only. You may not copy, or redistribute the contents of this email without the express, written consent of the author. *mark ty-wharton is a composer, philosophical speaker and writer* *http://mark.ty-wharton.com @mark_tywharton <http://twitter.com/mark_tywharton>*
