Too long. Did not read. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:46 PM, YouWho? <[email protected]> wrote:
> > GZ, everything you say is based only on social conditioning. The whole > world is submerged under a tsunami of ignorance and people believe > things have to be the way you suggest. > > If social concepts were different, the relative functioning of how the > dream plays out would be different. Aside from the ingrained concepts > about the necessity of a money based economy, there is no reason why > we couldn't do away with money right now and still feed and house > everyone and even give them their gadgets if they wanted them. We have > the technology, and more importantly, the resources to do this now, > but not the will. Even economist are starting to agree that our > current monetary system is severely flawed. People become slaves to > invisible dollars and pieces of paper that banks (namely the Fed) give > a false value to, for the sake of a very few. > > Part of the ignorance is people have their sense of identity wrapped > up in what they do, or how much many they make. It's a false sense of > identity. When you have money or a good job, you feel good about > yourself, and when you don't you feel bad and are scorned by society. > It's tied in to a misplaced sense of identity and what one's REAL > value is, as spirit or existence, or whatever you want to call it... > > This is all very basic stuff. Our society has told us since around the > beginning of the 20th century that socialism and communism are bad, > and use example of ruthless dictators as proof. These concepts were > conceived by people who saw the oppression of the masses by a few, and > the rich elite and profitable corporations spend decades doing a > massive propaganda campaign to convince the majority of people that > capitalism is the best lifestyle. Most people in world don't even > really know what socialism or communism are, as there really have > never been any true examples. The closest we've probably ever seen is > a sort of social democracy which is evidenced in Scandanavia, and of > course probably even closer was how some indigenous tribal people > lived around the globe before western exploitism and christianity came > a calling. But even they had to deal with tribal wars. Probably the > best option for a politico-economic model would be some variation of > Plato's concept of a benevolent dictatorship. The simple fact is that > people don't always know or do what is in their own best interest. > There have been examples throughout history where this type of system > has worked for generations, but a truly divine selfless dictator is a > very rare thing. Especially in this age of blind obedience to "me" and > "mine." > > Look all around at the consequences of the greed of a capitalistic > world. Fear of not having "things" and of not getting "things I want" > or need is the cause of most of the worlds problems in these times. > I'm not under any illusions about changing the ignorant ways of > thinking and acting of the masses, but there needs to be some thought > given to such things as every being's basic right to food and water > and shelter, and even the enjoyment of material pleasures, without > concern for whether there is available work, or why some small group > of people have more than they could ever use in a thousand lifetimes > when a great many people don't have enough for this life. I know > talking about these kinds of things pushes people's buttons, because > we are so accustomed the the societal conditioning of what we have > been taught to believe from day one. But just because we have always > thought something to be the best or only way, doesn't mean that it > really is the best way. The way the earth is changing, there may come > a day sooner than you think that capitalism crumbles, maybe not, but > then, we either work together as a community to see that every living > being's needs are met, or we become marauders who are only out for > ourself. That's the fundamental difference between true community, or > communism, and capitalism. > > If you believe you live in a free country, you are sadly mistaken my > friend. You talk about choices that you think you have, but for most > of the things you mentioned, you don't have a choice. You said you > don't want to be a beggar or broke and homeless. You don't have a > choice, you had to work. If you honestly believe that some fatcat > banker or corporate executive is working harder than a small farmer or > a mother who has to work three jobs just to get by and take care of > her family, you're sorely mistaken my friend. > > "Because that's the way it's supposed to be." > > That's just a concept. There is no way that "it's supposed to be" > outside of your concepts, and the concepts of the rich who don't want > you to have free food or cars or tvs or whatever, because that would > mean less for them. If you (meaning anyone)are in love with objects in > the world, you think about and protect those objects out of fear, and > you forget about Reality and generosity, and selfless service to > others who are only your own Self, regardless of if they are > productive or lazy, by whatever measuring stick one cares to use. Step > into selflessness and watch the miracles that happen, and the fear > that falls away.
