In the environment work, we have have an Application Development DBA and real DBA:)
Shapiro --- Chip Dunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then you have not worked with a real DBA. I would no > more call someone that > came in to just run backups and check validations a > DBA than I would called > the person switching backup tapes a Network > Administrator. Depending on the > business you will often find these higher-level > people preforming those > tasks - but the real benefit is what experience they > can bring to the > project. > > I personally have never liked the DBA monikor > because I think the task is > divided into 2 parts. The first is the DBD (Database > Developer). This person > builds the system and knows their SQL and Set Theory > to the core. The second > is the DBA that ensures that the hardware, > clustering, backups, and other > issues are kept in line. I find that too often the > DBD and DBA become mixed > when in fact they are two disciplines. > > I have met many really great developers in my > travels, but never one that > could transition from database to application to > interface and not make hash > of each step. IMO all developers need to have a good > working knowledge of > all tiers of the system, but understand the skill > brought to the table by a > good specialist. > > > Chip > > On 9/14/05, Steve Welborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >>The most important person on any development > project > > is usually a DBA. > > >>Good DBAs can save a project - simply because > THEY > > know what they're doing > > >>and can create a performing database and schema. > > > > I venture to say a great developer doesn't need a > > DBA for anything because > > they would have the skills to do every layer of an > > application, from > > creating and maintaining a database(keeping the > > performance up), business > > logic classes and design, to the front end. > > > > I've been a developer for 9 years and only once > have > > I had the opportunity > > to work with a real DBA. All he did was come in at > 4am > > and run processes for > > data validation so that when we programmers get in > the > > data will be where we > > need it. This was about 5 years ago, had I known > then > > what I know now we > > would of gotten rid of the DBA and put the data > > validation in a class > > somewhere and scrubbed the data as it went to the > > database. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > =================================== > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor(r) > http://www.develop.com > > > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > > http://discuss.develop.com > > > > > > -- > "The reason the mainstream is considered a stream is > because it's so > shallow" --George Carlin > > =================================== > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® > http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
