Hi e, On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:30:03 -0500 eash...@mac.com wrote:
> > On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Nicholas Clark <n...@ccl4.org> wrote: > > > > Yes. Surprisingly familiar set of names, most I recognise from at least 10 > > years ago. > > > > Why aren't there new names? > > Likely the same reason(s) as 10 or more years ago. :) > > > (The breeding programme will take time to deliver results. Something needs > > to change in the meantime) > > Well, there have been a lot of words wasted on "Why aren't there more women > in $x?" for just as many years with just as little change and I do think the > correlation is meaningful if not causation. The breeding programme does > appear to be producing quite a few females so you'd think there'd be more > earnest investigation instead of believing the world will be miraculously > changed in a few years, but I'm not optimistic such will be the case. > I hope I won't get attacked for it too much (and I am an active contributor to advocacy@perl.org), but I think part of the problem is that Feminists (and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminazi -s - a term which no longer mean the same thing) are *never* happy from whatever behaviour the good-intentioned male hackers exhibit towards female developers who wish to start, which causes them to do nothings towards them (as a worst of all possible solutions - see http://motivator-and-inspirator.blogspot.co.il/2010/07/grandfather-grandson-and-donkeys.html ), and make the ground fertile for constant abuse by the sexist “naked pics, plz” people. So I think it is better to encourage post-Feminist / post-Buffy / post-Friends / etc. female hackers’ heroines. Trying to tout my own horn, here is some ( hopefully ) entertaining and amusing post-Buffy / post-Feminist online literature I've written: * http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/human-hacking/ - the Human Hacking Field Guide - “An unlikely female computer hacker (= software enthusiast, not a computer intruder)-wannabe is getting taught by an even more unlikely female computer hacker. It takes place in Los Angeles, California and is written in English. ” * http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/Star-Trek/We-the-Living-Dead/ - a Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode with some loose ends, which is featuring Katie Jacobson, a typical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y female software hacker (originally from Berkeley, California, a Technion graduate and then working as a system administrator on a private merceneries star ship) who is excited (or sometimes agitated) to experience the various farfetched wonders my imaginary world crossing of Star Trek TNG/DS9, Buffy, Judaism, Objectivism and Neo-Objectivism, geek culture and many other lesser influences. Furthermore, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadzia_Dax and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kira_Nerys also play important rules there as does Deborah the Prophet. * https://github.com/shlomif/Selina-Mandrake ; http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/Selina-Mandrake/ - “Selina Mandrake - The Slayer” - Selina is an unusual vampire slayer, who while being an Anglo-American student, with aspirations of becoming a Near East Archaelogist, testifies that: “I’m not into martial arts, and I’m really clumsy. As much as I like playing Basketball (and I do), I royally suck at it… ”. Despite all that, using the fact that she knows enough about the Near East, Judaism/Semitic culture, and popular culture, she is able of slaying all the demons she encounter, but while finding the entire process extremely emotional. ----------------- Regards, Shlomi Fish > An anecdote I'm fond of sharing since it still makes me laugh is when I > noticed a group of 4yo pre-schoolers playing with a European layer puzzle of > the human body (EU for anatomical realism) I asked them, "What is the largest > organ in the human body?" Without exception, the girls pointed to their head > or their hearts and the boys, well, the boys all pointed to the most > cherished of male body parts. I managed to not make ribald comments leading > to nightmares or corruption of such innocent souls and soldiered on informing > them that, no, the skin is the largest of the organs in the human body. Again > I asked the question and the girls, without exception, all pointed to their > skin and, the boys all pointed to their cherished member. Some things don't > change. :) > > If you want change, you have to do more than ask why and have a panel of > talking heads at a conference...or announce a new version of the language in > hopes that change can be driven merely by external novelty. > > e. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ The Case for File Swapping - http://shlom.in/file-swap The X in XSLT stands for eXtermination. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .