We can't redefine the B!  Bishop George would roll over in his grave!

Marvelous that the Theory of Immaterialism should have echos in the immaterial world of software. Remember: "esse est percipi"




On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, Alex Libman wrote:

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:59:18 -0700, "W. Steven Schneider" 
<[email protected]> said:


4. Changing what B designates doesn't affect how people think about
   the OS.

Changing what that B stands for, even as an informal nickname / joke,
does affect how people think about the OS.  A lot of people shun open
source software because they're under the impression that "all open
source people are commies".  I have friends who admit that AIX, SCO,
Interix, etc are inferior, but they stick by them for those cultural /
ideological reasons.  I'm working hard to change that perception,
particularly in regard to the more market-friendly permissively-licensed
("Copyfree") operating systems, among which OpenBSD is a champ.  But
references to Berkeley are a major setback - not just because of the
reputation that particular school had in the 60s, but also as a reminder
that "free software is written at tax-victim expense".


3. Changing what B designates doesn't affect the quality of the OS,
   for good or ill.

Changing the name obviously doesn't affect the quality of the OS, but
changing the way people think about the project does.  For every person
that went to Berkley there are thousands that didn't, and a lot of
people don't like it.  If OpenBSD becomes the favorite UNIX for
capitalists, libertarians, conservatives, Ayn Rand fans, etc -- as it
should be for licensing reasons -- a lot more support and donations
would flow its way, which would definitely have a positive effect on
quality in the long run.


2. Berkley, as pointed out by Andre, is historically significant.

The most fundamental aspects of UNIX were defined at AT&T starting in
1969.  Some of the specifications actually dated back to an earlier
project also involving MIT and GE, but it was AT&T / Bell Labs that
brought advents like C, sh, awk, sed, and the whole shebang (pun
intended) of core UNIX.  Yes, the Berkeley people have done a lot of
important work, but a lot of it was just importing things done at other
universities and elsewhere.

All major OS'es and many other projects have some amount of code that
came through Berkeley in the 80s - does that mean all of them should be
called BSD?!  Even the original SunOS started with a BSD base, and they
can even claim a more direct line of descent because of Bill Joy.

It's been 17 years since the lawsuit was settled.  Download the original
4.4BSD code and see how little of it remains unchanged in OpenBSD, and
what a small fraction of the current OS it makes up.  Also, according to
policy.html, BSD is no longer the preferred license for OpenBSD, ISC is.
OpenBSD is it's own operating system with its own distinct attitude,
priorities, and goals.  It should focus on the future, not the past!


1. I'm sure the developers have more important things to worry about
   than what B in BSD should stand for.

A project's attitude and cultural identity are very important.  Every
OpenBSD release includes original music and artwork, for example, and I
think that's just awesome!  Developers like to get together and drink
beer and socialize.  OpenBSD's eternal and redundant promotion of
Berkeley is a very important thing to consider.  Don't you think it's
about time for that nomenclatural umbilical cord to be cut?

Reply via email to