Bravo, Aisha,

  I myself was wondering why "advocacy" no longer shows up on the lists of 
OpenBSD mailing lists.  It was a nice place to discuss ideas that are not 
just confined to technical software matters.  I see that is still works 
however.  Next thing is to ask the devs if they would consider putting it 
back.  

Austin 


On Thu, 14 May 2020, Aisha Tammy wrote:

> Hi all,
>   I was wondering why this list is a bit dead (?!) and hoping to gain 
> some ideas for maybe reviving it.
> 
> I totally understand that most people at openbsd are devs and would
> like to focus more on coding than advocacy so I was wondering if people
> like me who are not that techy (mostly small ports) can help with
> this part.
> 
> I am open to constructive criticism, so please forgive me if I seem
> out of touch. I have been subscribed for close to a month and didn't
> notice a lot of things happening around here :( so I was hoping
> to spice things up a tiny bit.
> 
> Most of the ways in which I have tried previously is my creating
> whole bunch of small openbsd github projects and sharing them on reddit
> and twitter. But like this is barely scratching the surface of social
> media. I feel like there is a lot more that could be done :)
> 
> Some of the basic things which I feel like are low hanging fruits
> 
> (1) Showcasing tutorials on setting up small projects.
> 
> One of the things that people get a good feeling from (me included)
> is when we manage to get some service running, no matter how small
> or insignificant it is. Like getting my znc setup, I was riding on 
> that high for like 2 weeks (I know this sounds a bit dumb cuz I am 
> a noob, but it was pretty nice to feel like I accomplished something).
> 
> So it might be nice to  show how to set up small services.
> I mean things like setting up a blog (using worpress or similar),
> or a wiki, or a hugo/jekyll website.
> 
> There are a lot of really nice blog posts by a lot of cool people
> which show work arounds (for quirks) for these things in OpenBSD. 
> 
> It might be nice to have some kind of highlights page at openbsd
> which shows these nice links. (I know undeadly.org exists but is 
> not pointed to by openbsd.org, would be nice if that could be done
> if nothng else is possible)
> 
> I feel like while OpenBSD has really awesome benefits, the communication 
> of these with the community could do with some work.
> 
> (2) Having a bit more of a social presence
> 
> Doesn't need to be facebook/twitter. I know undeadly.org has some really nice
> articles with highlight for nice things happening in the tech/ports lists
> but unfortunately undeadly is not that well known 
> 
> While I am by no means a social media expert I still feel the lack of 
> presence of OpenBSD in general media articles and published stories.
> 
> I am open to some idea about how to try and increase this part.
> Some ways I can think of:
>   A) Getting in contact with news letter publishers and letting them
>      know of nice developments that have happened. I don't think that
>      linux news letters would be averse to having openbsd information
>      sent on them.
>      I am sure a lot of them would love if we send them information
>      and do some of the work of finding articles for them, which ties 
>      into my previous part of having a highlights page
>   B) Having an official blog
>      I feel like this is a pretty important thing, especially in nowadays,
>      where most things are spread online. Having an official blog will make 
>      things very easy for a lot of people to get interested. I am sure that 
>      there are quite a lot of people willing to chip in for this part if it 
>      was announced that there is going to be such an endeavor. 
>   C) (A controversial point) Trying to make things look a bit more
>      stylistic (please don't kill me T.T )
>      While I agree that clarity is the most important part a small amount 
>      of color in the official documentation is not the worst thing in 
>      the world. I am open to this part being thrown out.
> 
> (3) Showcasing a page for people to get involved in various parts of 
> the project
> 
> Currently the pipeline to get involved seems like
> try out obsd -> find something you find is not working or you don't like ->
> find person working on it -> contact them -> bug report/patch to change
> (have I missed something?)
> This seems to be a tried and true pipeline which has worked so far.
> It might also be good to have a page of open quests/projects in openbsd
> where new people can contribute without having to delve too deep into 
> system code. This was inspired by my recent forays into string algorithms
> on OpenBSD (nothing wrong with them, just that I was looking around and 
> trying to see what could be changed/improved).
> 
> Having devs post TODOs and help needed/appreciated into a web page allows for
> interested parties to get a better look at ongoing projects.
> 
> Currently I haven't figured out anyway to see what current new projects
> are being developed in OpenBSD. I feel like showcasing ongoing projects
> is just as important as showing completed ones in the highlights.
> 
> (While watching presentations are conferences is definitely one way to see
> ongoing projects it is nowhere near and optimal approach)
> 
> ----
> 
> These three were my main points in sending this email.
> Sorry that it got a bit long in the process.
> 
> Any things that I might be wrong about, I assure you I mean nothing harmful
> so do let me know what I have missed and erred on.
> I am only started using OpenBSD for a short while for less than 7-8 months 
> but I feel like in those 7-8 months a lot of the things that I have learned 
> could
> have benefited from the above points to make the transition simpler :)
> 
> These are my personal thoughts so take them with handful of salt.
> 
> Hope you all are staying safe,
> Aisha
> 

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