You've done nothing except believe that words are action. Aisha Tammy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5/14/20 8:52 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Aisha Tammy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 5/14/20 7:24 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >>> Kyle Willett <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source > >>>> news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux option > >>>> on their Thinkpad lineup and already certifies some for Red Hat > >>>> Enterprise Linux. I think it would be great if we could get some > >>> > >>> Who is "we"? > >>> > >>>> hardware manufacturer to certify OpenBSD on a device and offer it > >>>> pre-installed as an OS choice. I think that would be a good thing for > >>>> the project. Maybe an AMD64 x86_64 laptop is too much at first and > >>>> maybe we should start with one of the arm or mips laptops supported > >>> > >>> Who is "we"? > >>> > >>>> well by OpenBSD. I don't know just a dream I have. > >>> > >>> Why go around telling people your dreams? Why not do all this yourself? > >>> You don't need a mailing list for it. Is it your dream that others in the > >>> group "we" will do what you dream? > >>> > >>> What you are doing here is advocating that other people do that which > >>> you don't and won't do yourself. To be honest, it comes off small minded. > >>> > >> > >> There are many possible assumptions of what they could have meant, I don't > >> think there is a need to be overly harsh to their attitude. For all I know > >> they might be an enthusiastic college student who wants to help. > > > > I suspect you are an enthusiastic person who wants to send a mail to us, > > telling us what to do. > > > Sorry if it seemed like that. > I am not telling anyone what to do. I am asking for suggestions on what I > could > do more. > > > But that which you dream of? You won't left a leg to do any of it. > > > >> Voicing your ideas and finding like minded people is a good motivator for > >> doing a project. > > > > No, doing work is what makes projects. > > > > You are just typing words > > > >> @Kyle, I do appreciate your enthusiasm. > >> That said, I do agree that going straight to hardware is far from what is > >> possible as a short term goal. > >> > >> I think it is better by starting to do small things, > > > > I agree it is better to DO THINGS. > > > > But you are writing words. > > I do try to help in any small way that I can in ports@, though > I am not too good at it yet. > > > > >> I've already asked the newsletters to hopefully include the recent news > >> about > >> wireguard patches (even though it is not confirmed to be included yet, > >> please > >> don't kill me over this) and hopefully I get a positive response :) . > > > > The world is so full of writing about writing about doing stuff, but > > short of people who actually do stuff. > > > > You are one of those writers, it appears... > > > >> I know this is not a lot but I am hoping slowly things can turn > >> up for the better. > >> > >> As always, am open any other ideas you might have. > >> > >> (I tried to be terse, I think I failed) > > > > What a waste of time. > > > > In that case, could you tell what was the idea behind creating an > advocacy list, which on the site says: for promoting the use of OpenBSD ? > > Is this not what it is? > > I am also confused why so furious at me? I don't think I've done > anything horrible?
