On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:18:47 -0500 Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You mean the decline is because more and more people move to the front-/back-end setup, and people aren't just moving to php?
Oh I'm sure some of the decline is people moving to PHP, Python, Java, etc... but I don't think that we're losing as many people
as that survey says. The reason I say that is because doing a "default" install of Apache2/mp2 via the instructions on
perl.apache.org, my server at home doesn't report that it is using mod_perl.
I'm sure other people are in similar situations where they don't
even realize their server isn't claiming to be mod_perl powered.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't do that. But I think that no matter how things are configured by default now, both stats counters give a good indication that the user base is going down.
Maybe we should put together a quick howto on fixing
that and suggest it on the mailing list?
Do you think it'll have any impact when we talk about hundreds of thousands of users who aren't on the list and will never reach our
site?
What technique to help the scanners were you thinking about?
I wasn't really thinking about a scanner technique, but you're
I wasn't talking about the scanning technique. But the approach that will tell the scanners that mod_perl is there :) If user sets ServerToken to Off, you can't do much. And you can't enable it by default since some believe it's a security issue.
right we wouldn't reach everyone via the mailing list. However,
if we could put the howto up on the website, mention it on the
list, etc it couldn't hurt to help boost those numbers.
It wouldn't be anything drastic, but shouldn't be much work for
us and/or the users.
Sure, but I still want to hear first, what do you have on your mind, that you want to propose to users?
While I think the NetCraft survey is important, maybe we should
attack this another way. Create our own "registered users" page,
like the Linux Counter site, where mod_perl users could list their
sites. This still wouldn't catch everyone, but every little bit
helps.
Personally, I doubt we really want to do that. But if others are interested, by all means go for it. I just think noone will really care, and we will have the efforts wasted, which otherwise could be directed at better venues. But what do I know :) Please don't consider that as a discouraging note :)
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