On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Abigail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:13:24 +0200
> From: Abigail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Hasanuddin Tamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Selena Sol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: perl vs php. just the facts, ma'am.
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 09:46:38AM +0700, Hasanuddin Tamir wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Selena Sol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,
> >
> > > > Elaine said:
> > > > I'm not convinced that a lack of advertising money is the reason why Perl
> > > > isn't as popular as Java or MS products.
> > >
> > > I disagree. I would agree with Stas Bekman that the biggest thing that can
> > > be done for Perl advocacy is to find a big company to get behind it.
> >
> > If Java has Sun behind, is it in the same sense that C has (again)
> > Microsoft, Borland, or other compiler vendor behind? If not, what
> > makes it different between Perl and C in popularity while none of
> > them really "owns" C?
>
>
> The point isn't that Java has Sun behind it (but not just Sun. Also
> IBM, Microsoft (even if they'd rather not) and more).
>
> The main difference between Java and Perl is what is being produced.
> The "great" Perl things that are being produced are modules. But modules
> aren't interesting for the majority of the enterprise world. Modules
> are just tools to make other tools. The enterprise world wants tools:
> that is applications.
In that case, isn't Java just another tool? It's not application
either. I might get you wrong, but it seems to me that you compare
Java to Perl modules.
I assume you you refer "enterprise" to people in the position making the
decision. But how do they get to the decision?
> There are no killer Perl *applications*. Just killer modules. Not that
> there is something wrong with that.
Once a friend asked me, "Why there are so many cool modules in CPAN but
there's no one real application written in Perl?" With a hard-to-hide
gasp I said, "Maybe because most of the great applications are developed
for internal usage." But I knew I wasn't so sure.
Say there was a real killer Perl application, would they (the enterprises)
turn? And if the application really satistified them I don't really think
the would care what it's written in.
Well, I guess I've too much asked without contributing to the thread :-)
san
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