At 11:51 AM 8/17/01 -0400, Chris Nandor wrote:
>However, like I said, my interests are mostly mine alone.  I do not
>speak for business people.  If someone wants to do certifications, as
>long as it doesn't affect me, fine.  I will think it is silly, but
>whatever people want to do, they should do.

Quite.  Which is why I think the whole conversation is a non-starter.  If 
someone wants to do Perl certifications, let 'em; the market's perfectly 
capable of doing this by itself.  There's no reason those certifications 
should be administered by the people in the Perl community who hate the 
idea, so why the attempt to convince them to do something about certification?

>But as soon as I am forced to take some exam just to get considered for
>a decent job is when I will start to get *really* annoyed, and annoying.

In my wildest nightmares I cannot imagine this happening.  The areas where 
certification has the most influence are IMHO monolithic vendor products 
like Oracle, SAP, Novell.  Outside of that, the best-known certifications 
are Cisco (CCNE?) and MCSE, but as far as I can tell people can get 
perfectly good jobs doing networking or PC configuration without 
either.  Then there are a bunch of Linux certifications and AFAICT that has 
had no impact on the ability of competent people to get Linux jobs, since 
most Linux advocates feel the same way most Perl ones do about 
certification.  Therefore I think the whole debate is academic.
--
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com

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