Re: 'For more evidence of the profitless straining for topics, read the ASA
journal.'

For me it's more the deadening affect of analytic philosophy applied to art
that makes the ASA journal - and the British equivalent - so painfully
tedious to read.  Art itself is rarely mentioned and when it is, it seems to
wither like leaves under acid rain.

Not that continental aesthetics is any better.  Witness the Ranciere stuff
under discussion at the moment.  

Which is just one of the reasons I have so much admiration for Malraux.  He
is the one art theorist of art in modern times who manages to develop a
powerful theory of art while also bringing art alive for the reader -
instead of killing it off.

DA


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Mike Brady writes:

> You seem to think that the "sophisticated" 
> or "steeped" observer's associations are of a different kind or 
> quality from someone else's, which somehow impairs the scope or 
> relevance or import of their associations. That strikes me as a 
> remarkably weak assertion.
>
I'd claim that my remark is narrow rather than weak. I was claiming that
many
scholars, pressured to publish or perish,   will focus on less and less
interesting stuff, stuff that is less "important" -- for me -- because it
has
less
and less to do with the enjoyability of the works they're considering.

I noticed this when I was quite young, reading scholarly journals about
literature and about philosophy. I figured PhD candidates in English studies
had it
hard in a way that scholars in science don't: The English students had to
find their topic in the finite literature of the past. The scientist finds
his
topic in new stuff, in new experiments etc. -- he has an effectively
infinite
field to explore. Imagine having to find some area of British or American
literature that hasn't already been culled to death. But the young scholar
has
to
find a topic for his thesis that hasn't already been written about before.
Granted -- new "takes" on the old stuff arise from time to time -- feminism,
deconstruction -- but there are very few such renovating movements. So the
scholar
is stuck with hunting out some obscure 16th century poet who was obscure for
the good reason that his poetry was hum-drum -- but, hey, no one has written
about him before.

The observation that a new source of yellow paints affected the work of
nineteenth century painers is interesting, but my enjoyment of their
paintings
would not be increased or decreased one whit if I never knew of the
invention
of
the new yellow. The remarkable resemblance of a lolling figure to an earlier
lolling figure by another painter can certainly have its interest, but if I
never knew of that earlier figure, if I were never satiated by that loll,
I'd
enjoy the current figure for what it is. I can certainly understand a
connoisseur's being bored because he's seen it before -- but the
non-connoisseur isn't
likely to have the same reaction. That's all I meant to say. Connoisseurs
find
greater interest -- and perhaps dimished enjoyment -- in such facts than
most
of
the rest of us do. In sum, I find the "not hitherto sufficiently
appreciated"
observations of much scholarship to be -- for me -- ho-hum. I confess the
result is I can get irritated -- by the unwarranted self-celebration of the
would-be "discoverer" of something profoundly trivial, and because he has
wasted my
time.

For more evidence of the profitless straining for topics, read the ASA
journal.





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