I am not criticising skill as such. That would be silly.  Great artists need
to be highly skilled.  My point is that art is not *simply* skill (contra
what Alexei's summary of Ranciere seemed to be implying). 

Skill can be put to all kinds of uses.  Cabanel was highly skilled.  Even
some of his impressionist contemporaries recognised that. But they would
have given up painting rather than paint like him.

Writers like J.K. Rowling, Erle Stanley Gardner, Agatha Christie, etc are
skilled in their way. But the only thing their books have in common with
genuine literature (i.e. art) is the printing press.     

DA


-----Original Message-----
From: William Conger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2008 1:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: The Fate of The Image

I think skill is greatly undervalued.  Enormous skill
is usually evident in great artworks in any medium. 
Obviously, there are many different kinds of skill. 
As for Derek's favorite artists to hate, they indeed
were skillful, but so was Van Gogh, or Matisse, or
thousands of others.  Somehow, in the past 100 years
(blame Duchamp) skill of whatever type was
distinguished from honesty of expression (no one knows
what that is but it's broadly assumed) and thus any
artist who demonstrates high skill is regarded by some
hipsters to be dishonest, inexpressive, and
unoriginal, etc.  This is a very false
distinction/separation.  Skill is deeply interwoven
with all other (mysterious) features of genuine
artworks.  Examining it is a good place to start
(perhaps the only place to start) in experiencing art.


WC 
--- Derek Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alexei
> 
> So are you saying that art is nothing but technical
> skill of some kind? (My
> particular examples are not important. There are
> plenty of others.)
> 
> DA 

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