You must not have read my reply to Cheerskep, Chris. DA On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes -- Cheerskep has nailed exactly what I had in mind. > > Derek's identification of things as art is "effectively vacuous" and > "leave > the rest of us with no handle for discussion". (so why do we continue to > query him? Beats the hell out of me. ) > > But neither is there anything to discuss regarding what Cheerskep finds > "cherishable". He likes to watch football games - I like to watch > Professional Wrestling (big muscle guys with their shirts off) -- > conversation > over. > > (But at least the cherishable reveals something about the cherisher -- > while > Derek's "art" reveals nothing about Derek -- because, as he's told us -- > it's > not necessarily anything that he enjoys.) > > Conversations can only begin when brave souls stick their necks out and > assert > that some quality or criteria has special importance or value -- as Boris > just > did with the word "completeness". > > The skeptics, like Cheerskep and Derek , will immediately attack it as > hopelessly incomplete or muddled --- but since they will do that to all > such > assertions -- their attacks can just be ignored -- while those who want to > discuss aesthetics need to push Boris to connect his word to examples -- > as > well as to other words, historical and current, that have been used to > identify things of value. > > For some reason (perhaps the importance of skepticism to scientific > inquiry?) > -- we have allowed the skeptics to dominate and shut down discussion on > this > forum -- but we should probably just ignore those who refuse to offer > their > own incomplete, diminutive, and muddled criteria for a possibly > humiliating > examination. > > Sort like the rules in a nudist camp: only fellow nudists can > participate. > > _____________________________________________________________ > Taking a trip? Click here to compare hotel rates and find a great deal. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2211/fc/Ioyw6ijmgiaM7HlS01tooNLkXpy131 > DUTjotZFgeHLWdJlZRbnxWHS/?count=1234567890<http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2211/fc/Ioyw6ijmgiaM7HlS01tooNLkXpy131DUTjotZFgeHLWdJlZRbnxWHS/?count=1234567890> > > -- Derek Allan http://www.home.netspeed.com.au/derek.allan/default.htm
