To me , the totality of the art is what counts. Even concertos are not
complete until every note is in it's proper space to the composer.
No space is meaningless
mando

On Oct 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Chris Miller wrote:

I would assert that the "deliberate imposition of peripheral
restrictions on aesthetic forms like tones or marks" -- is something the we do
all time -- whether we feel the forms are aesthetic or not -- focusing
attention on what is important to us -- and ignoring the rest (even if
staying aware of movement at the periphery)

And nothing is as important in the human visual field as the human face -- which is why the Mona Lisa would present a compelling image even if were cut right down to it. The rest of painting enhances the face -- but the further we move outside of it, the less that both we viewers (and Leonardo) are
interested in what is happening.

For example -- the figure is framed by two columns that just evaporate into thin air -- while the pedastal on the right is transparent enough to see the landscape behind it. These are physical anomalies - but who cares ? And who cares about the edge of the painting at the top -- where the blue paint of the sky ends before it reaches the top edge of the panel. Where exactly is that
"mark" ? Who cares ?

I have no doubt that William is deeply concerned with the edges of that painting -- but that's not because he is a painter -- it's because he is a certain kind of painter -- one who only works with geometric forms and the occasional sqiggly line. (which is not especially a modern genre -- what's
modern are the ideologies that become associated with it)


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Ah, our Miller comes out swinging against the modernists on the list!

What a nice distum: "The more compelling the image, the less important the frame". What nonsense. After all, what is the image? For a painter the
image
is the whole work, the positive and negative space. For Miller it's only the that part of the image he can name with a noun, signifying its possible existence outside the painting and as a language-based entity. Take a look
at
the Mona Lisa. A compelling image of a woman, yes. But why? Now look at
the
background and see how the horizon is at different levels on each side of
woman's face. Without realizing it the two horizons invisibly meet at
different
levels at the mouth and thus we are "unconsciously" struggling with a
resolution and project all sorts of mysteries on the mouth. Turn the work
upside down and see how much the image of the woman is affected by the
negative
space.

One of the first lessons in snapshot photography is framing the image. How many bad snapshots have you seen or made where some object in the distance
seems to project from the main subject's head or nose? Most amateur
photographers quickly lern to look at the whole image, not just the main subject. Why? Because in the 2-d world, all patterns are on the same plane. The "compelling" image is the whole work. If Miller still thinks otherwise,
he
should imagine this text as all jammed together without any negative spaces
separating words.

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