I would probably agree with Cheerskep because most of us start getting them from early childhood, if one agrees that A.E.'s come in all intensities. Big WOWs are rare,
even to artists themselves.
mando
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On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Chris Miller wrote:

Cheerskep has submitted (in CAPS no less!): "NEVER, NOT ONCE, HAS A COMMENT OR
ILLUMINATING OBSERVATION BY AN EXPERT CAUSED ME
TO DERIVE AN AESTHETIC EXPERIENCE FROM A WORK THAT DID NOT OCCASION IT IN ME
BEFORE."

So.. I'm wondering if anyone else would say the same ?

I would have a problem with the "NEVER, NOT ONCE" phrase -- because I'm not sure when I first had something that I would now call an aesthetic experience - i.e. something more than just an enjoyable moment - but something that would make me exclaim "Wow --what a trip! and then remember it as special and worth
trying to repeat.

I remember having that experience with some of the first novels that I read -- like "Count of Monte Cristo" -- and later with my first jazz records and
some landscape paintings in the local museum.

Yes -- maybe I do agree with Cheerskep-- since these experiences were all so private -- and had nothing to do with expert advice being given or received.

Though I do think that expert advice has a necessary role in the maintainance of each of the traditions that made those things available to me -- and would
agree with William  that these things were
"not made for ordinary lookers but for some elusive standard of
excellence, based on the excellences already evident to the most expert
judges."





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