I'm referring to painting as paintings, not useing the photo as a by the numbers guide. Or paintings that paint over a photo but not over the eyes, when the eyes are the significant part of the painting and the artist calls it a painting. To me, essence of the painting is destroyed. I cannot imaging where photography will take us in art even now.
Some of the best art for me is in photography by the camera in orbit.
mando

On Dec 7, 2008, at 1:52 PM, William Conger wrote:

Lots of painting has been based on photos without being "photo- realist". This was true for some Impressionists. Some more recent painters deal with the photo as if it were nature; that is, their subject is the photograph, not what the photo depicts. Thus we can't always say the the photo "kills the essence of nature" when the photo itself is the "nature" being depicted. More generally, it's almost impossible to find any post 1850 art that has not been somehow influenced by the camera lens, except, perhaps in some isolated cultures. Of course the influence worked the other way around too. Early photography frequently imitated painting and sculpture. And some might argue that the photo lens itself imitates Renaissance perspective (the one-eye focus). What if the Egyptians had invented photography in, say, 1600 BCE? What would their lens and images look like? Typical Egyptian imagery?
WC


--- On Sun, 12/7/08, armando baeza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: armando baeza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reading Peter Kivy Nd - looking through that telescope
To: [email protected]
Cc: "armando baeza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 1:10 PM
My feeling about Photo Realism Painting of today is that it
comes
closer to killing the essence of  nature, rather than  the
attempts to
intensifying it, by making variations of it, without the
camera.
mando

On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:03 AM, William Conger wrote:

Artists were very enthused by the development of
photography,
excepting the portrait painters.  In influence of
photography on
modernist painting is a most interesting topic.  It is
still a
major influence.
WC


--- On Sat, 12/6/08, GEOFF CREALOCK
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From: GEOFF CREALOCK
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Subject: Re: Reading Peter Kivy Nd - looking
through that telescope
To: [email protected]


Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 9:55 PM
Something like the impact of photography on the
objectives
of the painters
of that time..
Geoff C

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