"As a student...", there he goes again with the condescending schoolmaster 
tone. 

Cheerskep wants things philosophical two ways:  first he wades us into the  
black deep currents of philosophical traditions and their technical terms but 
then, with expectant visions of a wise Brown Trout and the water pouring over 
the tops of our waders, he takes us back to the muddy shallows where 
"commonsense" terms, quips, illustrations -- little minnows -- are said to be 
the same as the elusive and frightful prize. 

 When I started "as a student" in philosophy, the first lessons had to do with 
Naive Realism, or commonsense belief and its easily demonstrated falsiies.
WC  
 
--- On Tue, 12/30/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Malcolm Gladwell and beliefs
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 5:17 PM
> In a message dated 12/30/08 5:51:49 PM,
> [email protected] writes:
> 
> > Phenomenolgy is about the mind representations of the
> reality we can never
> > attain directly. If it's mind, it's fiction
> (an as-if make-believe).  When I
> > say mind, I am not implying a brain-independent
> condition. This is not a
> > far-fetched goofball idea. Husserl is a start.
> >
> As a student one is taught it started even earlier: with
> Kant and his notion
> that the "noumenal" world is forever
> "unknowable", and all our brain can
> entertain is the phenomenal world. Indeed he said such
> elements of awareness
> as
> time, space, causation are contributions of our minds, and
> we have no reason
> to
> believe they obtain in the noumenal world.
> 
> Do you want to take a shot at the question I put? Perhaps I
> can sharpen by
> asking, do you feel "Snow White" and "Newman
> is Dead" are EQUALLY "fiction"?
> >
> > > >
> > > >Occasionally I have seen words effectively
> murdered by
> > > over-stretching them
> > > >-- for example, 'obscene' and
> > > 'awesome'.
> > > >
> > > >William, can you conceive of any notion
> you'd call
> > > non-fiction?
> > > >
> > > >If you can't, then what word would use in
> trying to
> > > convey a distinction
> > > >between an entirely made-up story like SNOW
> WHITE AND
> > > THE SEVEN DWARFS, and
> > > >a
> > > >so-called "fact" like PAUL NEWMAN
> DIED THIS
> > > YEAR or THE EMPIRE STATE
> > > >BUILDING
> > > >IS
> > > >IN NEW YORK CITY?
> >
> 
> 
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