Chris,
Ill only say one thousand more times and that is all!

I think there is a fuzzy universal view that we can
 all agree to, but each individual's view is different
and "Unique". And that is what all artists try to
 express. through  their own uniqueness.

mando

On Feb 10, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Chris Miller wrote:

I'm still not seeing any "definable and measurable truths" here that aren't trivial - since there are so many kinds of pictorial space and perspectives that might be applied in them. Can't we even say that each painting is sui generis ? -- even among those Renaissance paintings where new rules of linear perspective were introduced -- those rules seem to be broken at will -- for
reasons that might be called 'aesthetic'.  (I remember examining the
perspective in Titian's "Venus of Urbino" with some doctrinaire neo- academics
a few years ago)

Perhaps one could say that the aesthetics of pictorial space are universal -- since a modern aesthete might have the same preferences as an ancient king in a very distant land (and who doesn't admire the choices made by Akbar the
Great ?)

But the reasons for those preferences seem to lie outside any "definable and
measurable truth"

(BTW --- the images that David just shared are too ugly for me to contemplate, regardless of whatever truths of perspective they may be exemplifying.)



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