Sorry Cheerskep,

I've been saying it for 50 years.
mando
On Mar 4, 2009, at 11:45 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> In a message dated 3/4/09 12:55:52 PM, [email protected]  
> writes:
>
>
>> There is no procedure for testing  the existence of good art.
>>
> Look hard and you'll see most of my effort is aimed against the  
> indefensibly
> foggy notion behind "Good art exists". You can, as Bruce Attah was  
> unwittingly
> doing, putting together (an actually fairly smart!) stipulative  
> definition of
> "good art" -- that is, he was listing the characteristics that, if  
> found in a
> object, would move him to call it "art". (His definition was such  
> that if it
> isn't "good", it isn't "art". His biggest problem was he didn't  
> realize that
> all he could possibly achieve would be to say, "This is what I call  
> art."
> Instead, he took the unwinnable position that he was describing  
> what art IS.
> (Attah: "This definition is unbreakable, and it is only
> eighteen words long! I just sewed up and finished off and, worse,  
> showed to
> be mainly misguided,
> roughly a century's worth of theorising about the "meaning of art"  
> in about
> a hundred lines of text. You people probably thought you had  
> another century
> of fun to go on that one. Sorry people, but it had to be done. My  
> deepest
> sympathies go to the Weitzians. The bottom has just dropped out of  
> their
> world.")
>
> Chrsis adds: "Can't we all cease appealing to the "the normal uses of
> language?)"
>
> To which Michael responds:
> "Why? Do you have a disagreement with "the normal uses of language"?
>
> But, Michael, we've now had about a hundred fifteen years of  
> philosophy of
> language prompted by the inherent fogginess of "normal uses of  
> language".
> (Alas,
> most of that technical, ABnormal discussion is even more foggy.)
>
>
>
>
>
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