yes, i know ;) just wanted to bring this bete noire of mine... i mean the pre-existing singular entity. since i studied with ricoeur and latter buddhist epistemology, i do understand what you mean by process of becoming. i wrote a book on that, but it is in spanish here is a link for an interview with ricoeur http://www.philagora.net/philo-fac/ricoeur-e2.htm you might find it interesting. cheers luc
________________________________ From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]> To: Luc Delannoy <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:43:58 AM Subject: Re: Heidegger: truth and art Re: Heidegger: truth and art It was a reference to Kant b who also basically held that truth reveals itself b this is what gave rise to Hegelbs process in which with each revealing the subject is itself changed b and as such objects/ the objective is in a processof becoming rather than merely in a state of being b works of art consequently reveal themselves over time b and are not fixed by our understanding b but actually changed by them b this MH would consider part of their essence On 4/13/09 11:30 AM, "Luc Delannoy" <[email protected]> wrote: i am not sure about objective knowledge, or even objective truth - is there such thing? i don't like the idea of a pre-existing singular entity - otherwise language would not exist. Luc www.lucdelannoy.com ____________________________________________ Saul Ostrow | Visual Arts & Technologies Environment Chair, Sculpture Voice: 216-421-7927 | [email protected] | www.cia.edu The Cleveland Institute of Art | 11141 East Boulevard, Cleveland, OH 44106 ----- Original Message ---- From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:10:24 PM Subject: RE: Heidegger: truth and art kant tells us its objective knowledge common to all beings - and while the category might be objective but its content might understood ( which is different than known) subjectively - ____________________________________________ Saul Ostrow | Visual Arts & Technologies Environment Chair, Sculpture Voice: 216-421-7927 | [email protected]| http://www.cia.edu/ The Cleveland Institute of Art | 11141 East Boulevard, Cleveland, OH 44106 Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:24 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: Heidegger: truth and art Essence can,t be fuzzy (don't like the word). It can't be known by humans as absolute knowledge. The emotional reaction to the essence, which is the closest we can come to the Truth, is "a bit different in every mind". Boris Shoshensky -------- Original Message ---------- From: armando baeza <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Heidegger: truth and art Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:50:35 -0700 Not really, the essence if fuzzier that one may think. The art work is the objective truth ... it exist's. the essence is a bit different in every mind. mando On Apr 11, 2009, at 8:41 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Makes sense to me. We can't confuse this Truth with personal truth > Chris > mentioned. Personal truth is a process of delivering undistorted > simple facts, information of our every day existence. Unless it is > product of > artistic creation- then it stops to be personal truth. > Boris Shoshensky > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Heidegger: truth and art > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:14:57 -0400 > > For Kant it is the objective truths that are universally > applicable - for > Hegel it is universally applicable processes - for Heidigger it is > what we > can know about the origins of our world-picture/ reality once we > have > gotten > beyond the habits of language and thought - for MH essence are > those things > that constitute the origins of our being in the world - > consequently they are > ontologically arrived at truths > > > On 4/11/09 11:03 PM, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > What is the essence, why it exists and how it is formed? > Boris Shoshensky > > > ____________________________________________ > > Saul Ostrow | Visual Arts & Technologies Environment Chair, Sculpture
