Different era's have thought different qualities were timeless -  so no
timeless to one era is not timeless to another - your confusing tradition with
timeless - the nude and colors are not prescribed as universals per se  just
constants - in that color is used to very different ends over the course of
history and so is the representation of the human figure - consequently they
are universals on the most reductive level because they subscribe to no
particular standards, criteria, or values

On 4/25/09 9:04 PM, "armando baeza" <[email protected]> wrote:

Timelessness refers to all periods equally, no? The more gadgets we
include
in art, the more difficult art gets. That's why i stay with the and nude
body.
And Congers stays with color and form and Boris stays with nature, I
think.

mando

On Apr 25, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Saul Ostrow wrote:

> Or inversely it has come to be associated with some other periods
> sense of
> timelessness
>
>
> On 4/25/09 2:19 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/25/09 1:46:57 PM, [email protected] writes:
>
>
>> Whether art, local or universal, only depicts the historically
>> personal,
>> without a sense of timelessness it's place will remain just
>> historical.
>>
>>
>
>  Presumably that means that some historically personal portraits which
> continue to be accepted as art have some aspect of "timelessness".
> Kate Sullivan
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