A state is a political association with effective sovereignty over a
geographic area and its  population. A state usually includes institutions
that claim the authority to make the rules that govern the  relationships
between the people in that territory, though its status as a state often
depends in part on being recognized by a number of other states as having
internal and external sovereignty over its territory.

Private property and private initiative, should be in the  interest of the
people of that
Country. Pathological systems driven by  greed, that keep people  poorly
educated  and economically vulnerable are enemies of the people of all
societies as well as the  world.  All people are equal in their need and are
of value in what they contribute to the good of the whole- each according to
their need from each according to their ability. Democracy does not punish
someone because they do not have the capabilities of another - nor do they
reward those who purely have more than others and the expense of the weak.
As for the Fascist State it  employs  the mass- phobia that arises from the
fear of poverty and instability. It is used to terrorize the populace so  that
they will trade their freedom for the promise of security, which is most often
framed in spiritual terms

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Saul Ostrow | Visual Arts & Technologies Environment Chair, Sculpture

Voice: 216-421-7927 | [email protected] | www.cia.edu<http://www.cia.edu/>

The Cleveland Institute of Art | 11141 East Boulevard, Cleveland, OH 44106



---------- Original Message ----------

From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Transgenerational and transcultural art [was Heidegger and
Histo
r ical Art]
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 01:25:26 -0400

Actually - what we have to fear in terms of Obama is fascism -  The fascists
oppose both international socialism and liberal capitalism, they claim to
provide a realistic economic alternative that is neither laissez-faire
capitalism nor socialist. They favor corporatism, believing that the
existence
of inequality and separate social classes is beneficial . Fascists argued
that
the state should play a key role in mediating relations between these
classes.An inherent aspect of fascism is economic dirigisme, meaning an
economy where the government exerts strong directive influence, and
effectively controling production and allocating  resources and profits. In
general,  fascist economies are based on private property and private
initiative, but these are contingent the interest of the state - which
functions as an autonomous - self-interested entity.


On 5/2/09 12:59 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

I agree. It drives me nuts. The stupidity of the some talking heads in the
media crying socialism with ignorance that raises question of the quality of
education in political science at schools they went to.
It is similar way they taught us about capitalism in the USSR.
We know how it ended. Aggressive ignorance from all sides is the greatest
evil.
Boris Shoshensky


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Saul Ostrow | Visual Arts & Technologies Environment Chair, Sculpture

Voice: 216-421-7927 | [email protected] | www.cia.edu<http://www.cia.edu/>

The Cleveland Institute of Art | 11141 East Boulevard, Cleveland, OH 44106



---------- Original Message ----------

From: Luc Delannoy <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Transgenerational and transcultural art [was Heidegger and
Histor ical Art]
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 09:46:49 -0700 (PDT)

This is like calling Obama a socialist; plain ridiculous. It is usually done
by people who have absolutely no idea of what socialism is about - what
socialism anyway ? French, Italian, Spanish, Ecuadorian etc...




----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Miller <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:44:26 PM
Subject: RE: Transgenerational and transcultural art [was Heidegger and
Histor ical Art]

I realize that your Marxist ideology, Saul,

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