Mr Conger,
Would you care to elaborate on the 'do-or-die-it's gotta-be-done mania'?  Is
this a version of Hvlderlin's claim that every artwork exhibits a necessity
to be?

Could you also say a little more please about the other artists showing at
Elm Lesters Galleries.  For the most part, I am less impressed with the
preponderance of figurative works.  And I was wondering what an Abstract
Expressionist like yourself would have to say about this, as well as the
return of pop art.

Many thanks

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:27 PM, William Conger
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I agree with Imago.  However, the work is not authentic outsider work, in
> my opinion, but does seem to exploit some of the traits common to outsider
> art, such as the ephemeral materials.  Leaving his work on the street for
> anyone to take is not so uncommon anymore.  It's one of the fairly
well-worn
> methods by which artists try to attract attention.
>
> For me, mosto f his stuff is ho-hum, not because of his methods, subject
> matter, or even his late cubisto-Bacon manner, but because the works seem
to
> have no compelling energy.  They are too complacent despite the tricky
> designs. I mean where's the do-or-die-it's gotta-be-done mania?
>
> I think there are better artists in the gallery he shows at.
> wc
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: imago Asthetik <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:52:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Rand Chapter One: Psycho-epistemology of Art
>
> Mr Miller,
> My point was not that Neates work ought to be considered great art
> (actually
> I find the palette and figuration to be derivative of Francis Bacon and not
> as interesting), but simply that an artist to whom one would apply the
> label
> 'modern (if not contemporary) artist' is working within the well defined
> codes of iconographic representation. Everything from the relief created by
> the cardboard, to the pose of the figure, to the facial expression, would
> find a home in the cottage industry of outsider art which is icon painting.
>
> I am by no means an expert, and perhaps someone here could say something
> more intelligent than I am able to on this subject.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Chris Miller <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > >You may want to have a look at the work of Adam Neate
> > http://www.elmslesters.co.uk/index.php?pid=13&subid=26
> > He has done some work that focuses on this.
> >
> >
> > Thanks, I.A.
> >
> >
> > Here's something like an icon from Alexander Dubovyk:
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u_KW4nuKg9k/SoqheIarsvI/AAAAAAAAKsA/bKFMayqZf9U/s16
> > 00-h/alexander.jpg
> >
> > If he had thrown a few saintly figures into that "Golgotha", it would
> > belong
> > in a church.
> >
> >
> > But the Neate pieces, even the figures with halos, would be much better
> > located in a bar somewhere between  a college campus and a maximum
> security
> > prison.
> >
> > The two artists express a very different "sense of life" as Ayn Rand
> would
> > say.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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