Frances to Allan... 
My main intent in making statements as are done below is to try
and posit a global realist and pragmatist approach to all art and
all else. To that end, any approach that seems mainly
subjectivist or psychologistic or mentalist like notionalism and
nominalism and rationalism are rejected, although if warranted
they may be retained as special approaches to particular issues. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Sutherland [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Rational Discussion and aesthetic quality

On 27/08/2009 02:38, "Frances Kelly" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Frances to Armando...
> In the production of art, it would be my feeling that the
somatic
> material act of making it likely motivates the cerebric mental
> act to adapt somewhat most of the time. In the sphere of say
> visual art, the graphic pictural act or the plastic sculptural
> act will stimulate the rational act of planning and predicting
> the work to alter or change the expectations of mind perhaps
half
> the time, before the artist finally settles or completes or
> finishes the work. It is rare that the material graphic or
> plastic act will merely report on the mental or rational act
> somewhat precisely as designed in the mind. The artistic act in
> its stuff and form will have the power to feed back to the mind
> unexpected surprises that are pleasurable or joyful or
admirable.
> In the consumption of art, any thinking or knowing or reasoning
> about it is another logical aspect of aesthetic art altogether.

I agree with what you have very clearly written above; the
process of making
art involves an intention and an interactive feedback system that
incurs
modifications, serendipitous and others, as the art unfolds, but
that cannot
be considered compatible with what follows:

> In any event, the work of art as found or made is objectively
> independent of the subjective mind, because it is the external
> work or object that is art or nice and not the internal sense
of
> it. 

Found in the sense of suddenly come upon, no, found in the sense
of
discovery through seeking and responding, yes. Independent of the
subjective
mind, no interactive with the mind as the mind thinks through a
process
towards something evaluated as art; a random feedback system and
outcome is
not being proposed above, and would not describe what occurs
either.

Curiously, Toodle-pip,

Allan.

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