Only amateurs don't know. I bet you know it is art, Mando. What we don't know is the degree of the success in the attempt. Boris Shoshensky
---------- Original Message ---------- From: armando baeza <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Rational Discussion and aesthetic quality Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:18:36 -0700 I don't know it's art until I create it. There is no joy in knowing the result before getting there. Personally,the joy is in the doing and perhaps getting there mando On Aug 25, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Allan Sutherland wrote: > On 26/08/2009 01:10, "armando baeza" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> To know what is art, is to eliminate the joy of doing it. >> mando > > This sounds like absolute improvisation, making music without > knowing how to > play an instrument or make a sound. It is likely possible, it is > likely it > has been done, but is it adequate to enable a variety of arts to be > produced, I don't think so. It is rather romantic or even mystical > to think > art is created without knowing or knowledge; making art entails > knowledge > and skills, even when it is the knowledge that a pissoir may be > considered > as art in a specific presentation and location, then again that may > be piss. > > Or as Steve Lacy said describing his response to Don Cherry asking > him to > improvise without preconditions, Cherry said, and Lacy replied: > > 3 Well, let9s play9. So I said, OK.. What shall we play9. And there > is > was. The dilemma. The problem. It was a terrible moment, I didn9t > know > what to do. And it took me about five years to work myself out of > that. To > break through that wall. It took a few years to get to the point > where I > could just play.2 (Quoted in Bailey 1992, p, 55) > > How could it take 10 years to learn how not to know how to do > something? > > Toodle-pip, > > Allan. > > -- > http://braesidecottage-garden-music.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ How pure is your water? Click now and get pure water filtration. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYTluPqNPnaQ9bOQ5DrtkL2U2 3QKFcjrIBVpxvTjn0SpSwiD437NnC/
