Read the reviews of manet's work from the 19th century - it is mando's
criticism - the only difference is Mando will acknowledge manet as a important
artist - and at that time he was thought to be inept
High brow, middle brow and low brow have nothing to do with class - Donald
trump for instance is decidely low brow -
 as for your question we generate opinions using highly complex  networks  and
systems - but in the end most opinions like this one is only a variant on an
existent theme - as is Mando's sense of design which is fairly conventional -
if a bit old fashion


On 11/16/09 12:49 PM, "Chris Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:

Saul, I challenge you to find a single opinion from the last hundred years,
in
print or on the internet, that asserts that "Bar at the Folies Bergere" is a
poorly composed painting by whatever standards the writer advocates.

(and if, by chance, you actually do find such a person, that person will be
unanimously recognized  by us  as an eccentric crank)

Do you even, in your wildest dreams, imagine that a staunchly middle-brow
publication like "American Artist" or "Western Art would publish an article
condemning Manet for poor composition?

Perhaps a self-acknowledged high-brow, like yourself, would attribute that
opinion to those of a lower class -- but that's not the same as anyone
actually having it.

The important question is not "where do opinions come from?" -- but "where
does your opinion come from?"

It's rather clear that Mando's opinion about  Manet's composition comes from
his own sense of design, that he's been practicing, for better or worse, for
60 years.

Where does your's come from?

.....................




>It was fairly conventional he was comparing traditional standards of a good
composition (balanced) with what Manet was doing - in the sense that for
Mando
what manet did in the 1870s was out of the loop", quite outside those
"dominant rules of thought that are necessary to produce a relatively stable
framework which will enable "good" art  and mando wanted to get it back to a
norms of finish and  composition that still dominates most middle brow views
of good art



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