Frances to William and others... 

It is interesting to peer over the wall at this stuff from the
wings. If you will permit me to jump in with some ideas that are
still rough, your further comments may help me to sort this haze
out. 

In my sign research most semioticians who study literal verbal
statements in scripture or literature tend to hold that texts,
whether they are manually lettered by hand or mechanically
typeset by machine, should be visible and legible and readable;
and even better if they are somewhat semantically analogous with
their carried content. In terms of formal iconic similarity, all
forms are held by sign theorists to be immediately like some
object, even if that "referred" object is a mere quality of
emotive feeling; and this in spite of the best efforts of the
writer or designer to avoid it. Even scientists who regularly
scan and read graphs are held to be affected by the shapes and
colors of lines and labels, even if they deny it. At the level of
culture and society it might also be argued pragmatically that
the typographic designer who makes type or who uses type is kind
of entrusted with something unique that establishes and maintains
the substance of an essence for peoples. My thought here perhaps
turns to anthropology and ethnology and to philology. 

All the recent messages on this current topic from list posters
have not yet been fully digested by me, but will be soon, because
of their apparent usefulness to me in my own semiotic pursuits. 

PS 
On a point of clarification, when you refer to sign theory do you
mean the angloamerican "semiotics" as posited by realists and
pragmatists like Peirce or Morris, or the francoeuropean
"semiology" as posited by linguists and structuralists like
Saussure or Barthes. It often confusingly occurs in the
literature that semiologists like Eco will use the word
"semiotics" to mean their semiological sign theory. 

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