For this constant lurker in the wings, allow me to say that the
debate over stuff artistic and aesthetic is an interesting and
arresting revisit for me to an ongoing albeit frustrating issue,
which nonetheless still seems to warrant serious address. My bias
of course, as is well known here to most aging members of the
list, is realist and pragmatist. One of my suggestions is to make
a threaded side trip to those texts turning on the aesthetic and
semiotic ideas of the late Charles Sanders Peirce who is usually
recognized in academia as a very able philosopher. His take on
angloamerican phenomenology would be a good starting point,
because it concerns the subjective "observation" of seeming
phenomenal haze guessed to be for likely representative stuff,
and then the objective "expression" of those felt findings in
scholarly reports to similarly engaged learned peers for their
expert review. The good results must therefore fall to the
determination of that collective community.
---Frances