On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:39 AM, joseph berg <[email protected]> wrote:

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>  On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:35 AM, joseph berg <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM, William Conger
<[email protected]>wrote:
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>>> ...For instance,   I've read Debord's essay on the Society of The
>>> Spectacle (1967)
>>>
>>> and I know it's the Bible for a lot of new situationist artists (and
>>> angrily
>>> critiques celebrity and other tokens of commodification) but I find
>>> Debord
>>> ridiculously dated and even paranoid in his fixation on capitalism as
>>> the great
>>> evil. The alternatives are misty stone-age economics, as far as I can
>>> figure
>>> out.  Yes, Debord's very gloomy account of human debasement at the hands
>>> of
>>> capitalism may be true but when was it ever otherwise, with any economic
>>> scheme?
>>>
>>>
>> I think that ancient Sparta did not even use coins as a way of
>> suppressing commerce and preventing it from dominating their society.
>>
>
> Now that I think of it, they believed that the austerity of their military
> way of life helped to keep materialism in check.
>
> By the way, the Spartans weren't the only ones aware of the danger of
> allowing commerce to dominate society:
>
> - The state should take the entire management of commerce, industry and
> agriculture into its own hands, with a view to succoring the working
> classes and preventing them from being ground into the dust by the rich.
>
> Wang An-Shih (Chinese political reformer;1021-1086)
>

Aristotle said:

- ...The encroach-ments of the rich are more destructive to the State than
those of the people.

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