On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM, William Conger
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Yes, I'm inclined to go with Saul on this.  While there is never a solid
> guarantee that some people will be forever excluded from opportunity to
> improve
> their lots by their own efforts, it's evident that it is indeed the case
> just as
> it's the case that some with privilege and wealth will never lose it by
> their
> own foolishness.  (When you have billions of dollars, as many do nowadays,
> even
> a dedicated profligacy couldn't drain it all).
>
> It comes down to the old struggle between 'rights by opportunity' or
> 'rights by
> condition'.  Some people, always the ones who have superior rights by
> condition,
> want to deny those same rights to others and claim that the inferior
> conditions
> of others are set by some divine code.   The most they will allow is that
> those
> others can earn their way toward a new condition by making their own
> opportunities.  Then they restrict those opportunities by many insidious
> means,
> replacing the harsh, rigid reality with a foggy mythologizing such as
> "anyone
> can make good with hard work". Again, if you begin with social and economic
> privileges you have a good chance to keep and improve them.  If you begin
> with
> social and economic deprivations, you will probably never escape them
> fully.  So
> far as I know, this has been the case in every complex society since the
> beginning of history.  It's true that some societies are more open to
> 'change by
> opportunity' and maybe none has done better than the USA (excepting the
> period
> of slavery) but permanent inequality and injustice remains the central
> problem
> of human society, in my view.
>

"Does equality of opportunity produce..equality?":

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/theurbanist/2012/07/23/does-equality-of-opportunit
y-produce-equality/

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